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BoredinKuwait
QUOTE(Black country toon @ Apr 30 2010, 08:08 PM) *

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QUOTE(Black country toon @ Apr 30 2010, 06:26 PM) *

The uefa cup is such an immense competittion, every year a british underdog seems to have a brilliant campaign and beat some of the big boys in the process, in the last 10 years we've had ,Celtic, Newcastle, Boro, Rangers and now fulham, it's great to follow every year.
And on a side note, I think toy hodgson has proved that you don't need world class players to make a quality team, nearly all of his squad are from the championship, and on paper probably not even one of their players would get into the manu/chelsea team. roy hodgson is a true genius and a role model other clubs should follow


People seem to be falling over themselves to praise Roy Hodgson. His team hasn't exactly blazed any trails in the Prem. Is all the fawning just based on this cup run or have I missed something?

they finished 7th last year, and this year they had pretty much secured prem status by christmas, at which point they prioritized the european campaign.
If you look at fulham's current squad, nearly all their players are from the championship, and there are no world class individuals either. how the likes of etuhu, zamora, gera, baird, aswell as the experienced but not stand out individuals like duff, murphy, hughes and davies manage to beat man utd, juventus, shaktar doesntk is an unbelievable achievment in a world where apparently money is the key to success.
I can't really see any other manager even keeping that team up in the premiership let alone getting into a european final.


They've spent £50m in the last 3 seasons and recouped half of that. Not exactly chump change, so money has been key to their limited success (up until this final) - and underdogs do reach finals from time to time - it doesn't in itself mean the manager has worked miracles.
And personally, I can see plenty of managers being able to keep that team up in what is a pretty limited Prem league outside the main teams.

where d'ya get that from?


Just go to any website that deals with Prem league transfers. Transfermkt for example. They've spent a lot and pay a lot more than the other small clubs around them. That's why they are so knee deep in debt - only kept afloat by Mr. Conspiracy himself.
Whitley Mag
QUOTE(Exiled Toon @ Apr 30 2010, 08:46 AM) *

Alan Hansen, Cilla Black, Alan Bleasdale, Bill Shankly, Craig Charles, John Peel, Jimmy Tarbuck, Ringo Starr, Kenny Dalglish, Stan Boardman, Jimmy Tarbuck, Gerry Marsden, DJ Spoony.

Can you here me Mark Lawrenson?

Your boys took one hell of a beating! Your boys took one hell of a beating!


Got a real life LOL for that. Good job. I'm so happy.
Dembas Strawberry Syrup
QUOTE(Whitley_Mag @ Apr 28 2010, 10:15 PM) *

QUOTE(Yellow Dazzla @ Apr 28 2010, 10:08 PM) *

QUOTE(Whitley_Mag @ Apr 28 2010, 10:02 PM) *


No surprise really, seen our fixtures? It is a game every 2 - 3 games. Fucked. tongue.gif

Saturday 3rd FAV BARWELL 3 - 2 Johnston9p Hodgson13 Robinson90+1 2730
Monday 5th NL1 West Allotment Celtic 2 - 1 Fawcett45 Kerr60 252
Wednesday 7th NL1 Tow Law Town 1 - 1 Kerr28p 139
Saturday 10th NL1 Bedlington Terriers 1 - 4 Johnston45 242
Monday 12th NL1 Norton & Stockton Ancients 1 - 2 Waite30 n/k
Wednesday 14th NL1 Ashington 0 - 0 n/k
Saturday 17th NL1 NEWCASTLE BENFIELD 2 - 2 Johnston15,90 487
Monday 19th NSC ASHINGTON 2 - 1 Chow3 Johnston36 1370
Wednesday 21st NL1 Bishop Auckland 7 - 2 Gillies13,19 Bell21,88 Kerr24,43 Hodgson65 n/k
Saturday 24th NL1 Penrith 0 - 2 n/k
Monday 26th LC South Shields 1 - 2 Chow56 n/k
Wednesday 28th NL1 RYTON 1 - 3 n/k
Friday 30th NL1 Esh Winning

Have to say, that is a ridiculous fixture pile-up that, but then again, that comes with success.

Cant say that we dont deserve a bit of glory though, we're like the Toon, not won anything in yonks laugh.gif



Aye, all the best in the final :)

LATEST: Ashington 1-1 South Shields, gone to extra time
Dembas Strawberry Syrup
QUOTE(Yellow Dazzla @ May 3 2010, 03:05 PM) *

LATEST: Ashington 1-1 South Shields, gone to extra time

SHIELDS WIN ON PENALTIES!!!!! yahoo.gif yahoo.gif yahoo.gif yahoo.gif yahoo.gif yahoo.gif yahoo.gif yahoo.gif
Dembas Strawberry Syrup
How did Atletico miss that roll.gif roll.gif
Dembas Strawberry Syrup
At eltico have been the better team so far but credit to Fulham, they're doing well to stay in it, 1-1 at half time
Dembas Strawberry Syrup
Extra time is the result. Fulham have defended well against an Atletico siege
Black country toon
its the diving and complacent but skillful spaniards against the old british steel, hughes and hangerland and especially baird have been quality tonight, come on fulham!
Dembas Strawberry Syrup
2-1, Forlan sad.gif

Massive deflection from hangeland
Whitley Mag
Shame for Fulham but got to be sneakily happy that Duff is on the losing side. Cunt.

Dembas Strawberry Syrup
QUOTE(Whitley_Mag @ May 12 2010, 10:10 PM) *

Shame for Fulham but got to be sneakily happy that Duff is on the losing side. Cunt.

TBH Ive not really paid much attention to the fact that snivelling little git is playing for them. I just feel so sorry for Fulham and Roy Hodgson. At least though they can be proud of what they've done, its a monumental achievement to reach any european final.

And to think of the teams they beat on the way fair and square Shakhtar Donetsk (the holders), Juventus, Wolfsburg and Hamburg, all top quality sides with massive budgets and (on paper) much better squads.
Black country toon
couldn't hate the diving pre-madonna whingers of forlan and augero any more, roy hodgson and fulham deserved that trophy. why can't british teams win the uefa cup final? rangers, boro, celtic and now fulham, gutted for them.
Alan Shearers Throbbing Crotch
QUOTE(Yellow Dazzla @ May 12 2010, 10:09 PM) *

2-1, Forlan sad.gif

Massive deflection from hangeland


It wasn't massive. It was pretty small but I know what you mean by massive. Massive enough to take it past Schwarzer.

But to be fair to Fulham, they've done brilliantly this season just as Boro did a few seasons ago. And all their fans should be proud of them and as a Toon fan I'm even proud of them. They've been wonderful ambassadors to English football this season and good luck to them for next season. I'll be rooting for them as long as it's not against us.
The Inspiration
Gutted for Fulham. Always liked them and really wanted them to win.

I wish they'd come up against the Diego Forlan who once played for Man United instead.
Dorty Mag
Fulham should be proud of what they have done in Europe this season.
Unlucky tonight.
Big Bad Titus
QUOTE(Whitley_Mag @ May 12 2010, 10:10 PM) *

Shame for Fulham but got to be sneakily happy that Duff is on the losing side. Cunt.


Agreed, would also have been pretty depressing to see Fulham winning a trophy glare.gif

Fair play to them for the run but think Athletico desreved it - Fulham didnt really offer anything once Zamora went off.

How a team that has Zamora as 1st choice striker and Erik Nevland as backup gets to the final is beyond me blink.gif
Black country toon
I think Zamora showed again last night his all round ability, people need to forget his old reputation and judge him on how he's playing, he held the ball up brilliantly last night and his knock on's and flicks created chances nearly every time, it's unlucky he has to pull out of the WC squad because of injury because he's a much better all round player than heksey.
and as a response to BBT last comment ^ it shows how good a manger roy hodgson is that the likes of gera and zamora can prove to be a quality partnership against teams like juventus, woflsburg etc.
but I think he's worked wonders with the defence aaron hughes and hangerlaand are one of the best CB partnerships in england, don't think athletico madrid won one single header in the fulham box last night. And the likes of chris baird and dikson euthu have turned into real quality players aswell. hopefully they give hodgson a bit of money in the summer because the only missing link is a pacy striker imo.
Copy Nooker
How the hell did Fulham get so far in this competition?
I thought they were crap.
A bunch of journeymen trying to play like Barca with predictable results.
Atletico weren't so great either, but at least they had a couple of class players in Forlán and Agüero who ran rings around Fulham's defence.
I find it strange in the age of ping-pong football where players aren't allowed to take two steps with the ball before they pass it, that the two acknowledged best players in the world, Ronaldo & Messi are known for what?
Could it be running with the ball, taking on players, dribbling - surely not?
Big Bad Titus
QUOTE(Black country toon @ May 13 2010, 11:25 AM) *

I think Zamora showed again last night his all round ability, people need to forget his old reputation and judge him on how he's playing, he held the ball up brilliantly last night and his knock on's and flicks created chances nearly every time, it's unlucky he has to pull out of the WC squad because of injury because he's a much better all round player than heksey.
and as a response to BBT last comment ^ it shows how good a manger roy hodgson is that the likes of gera and zamora can prove to be a quality partnership against teams like juventus, woflsburg etc.
but I think he's worked wonders with the defence aaron hughes and hangerlaand are one of the best CB partnerships in england, don't think athletico madrid won one single header in the fulham box last night. And the likes of chris baird and dikson euthu have turned into real quality players aswell. hopefully they give hodgson a bit of money in the summer because the only missing link is a pacy striker imo.


I think Zamora has some decent qualities but I dont think a half decent season suddenly makes him a world beater or an international player with all his previous shite seasons forgotton.

Hes a half decent player who fits into Fulhams style of play well but an international player I dont think he is.

As for my comment about the team, that was my point really that Hodgson has done a fantastic job in getting that team to the final although in the end that little lack of quality told for me. Hard work and graft can only get you so far.

I like Roy Hodgson and hes done a great job but I can actually see them doing really shit next season on the back of having such a good season this year.
Roland Deschain
QUOTE(Copy Nooker @ May 13 2010, 01:42 PM) *

How the hell did Fulham get so far in this competition?
I thought they were crap.
A bunch of journeymen trying to play like Barca with predictable results.
Atletico weren't so great either, but at least they had a couple of class players in Forlán and Agüero who ran rings around Fulham's defence.
I find it strange in the age of ping-pong football where players aren't allowed to take two steps with the ball before they pass it, that the two acknowledged best players in the world, Ronaldo & Messi are known for what?
Could it be running with the ball, taking on players, dribbling - surely not?



I find this entire comment strange!!

Isn't the fact they do what they do the reason WHY they're the best in the world? Or could Nzonzi and Dunn do exactly the same, if only they were allowed to dribble?
blink.gif
Some like it Hottiger
QUOTE(Roland Deschain @ May 14 2010, 12:18 PM) *

QUOTE(Copy Nooker @ May 13 2010, 01:42 PM) *

How the hell did Fulham get so far in this competition?
I thought they were crap.
A bunch of journeymen trying to play like Barca with predictable results.
Atletico weren't so great either, but at least they had a couple of class players in Forlán and Agüero who ran rings around Fulham's defence.
I find it strange in the age of ping-pong football where players aren't allowed to take two steps with the ball before they pass it, that the two acknowledged best players in the world, Ronaldo & Messi are known for what?
Could it be running with the ball, taking on players, dribbling - surely not?



I find this entire comment strange!!

Isn't the fact they do what they do the reason WHY they're the best in the world? Or could Nzonzi and Dunn do exactly the same, if only they were allowed to dribble?
blink.gif
Exactly, what it tells you is that there's so little space and so much pressure on the ball that you have to be a brilliant player to be able to hold onto the ball for any length of time.
Exiled Toon
QUOTE(Some like it Hottiger @ May 14 2010, 02:27 PM) *

QUOTE(Roland Deschain @ May 14 2010, 12:18 PM) *

QUOTE(Copy Nooker @ May 13 2010, 01:42 PM) *

How the hell did Fulham get so far in this competition?
I thought they were crap.
A bunch of journeymen trying to play like Barca with predictable results.
Atletico weren't so great either, but at least they had a couple of class players in Forlán and Agüero who ran rings around Fulham's defence.
I find it strange in the age of ping-pong football where players aren't allowed to take two steps with the ball before they pass it, that the two acknowledged best players in the world, Ronaldo & Messi are known for what?
Could it be running with the ball, taking on players, dribbling - surely not?



I find this entire comment strange!!

Isn't the fact they do what they do the reason WHY they're the best in the world? Or could Nzonzi and Dunn do exactly the same, if only they were allowed to dribble?
blink.gif
Exactly, what it tells you is that there's so little space and so much pressure on the ball that you have to be a brilliant player to be able to hold onto the ball for any length of time.



....and even then Mourinho can organise his team to mark them out of the game.

Will Ronaldo and Messi shine this Summer or will the pragmatists win - again
Copy Nooker
QUOTE(Some like it Hottiger @ May 14 2010, 01:27 PM) *

QUOTE(Roland Deschain @ May 14 2010, 12:18 PM) *

QUOTE(Copy Nooker @ May 13 2010, 01:42 PM) *

How the hell did Fulham get so far in this competition?
I thought they were crap.
A bunch of journeymen trying to play like Barca with predictable results.
Atletico weren't so great either, but at least they had a couple of class players in Forlán and Agüero who ran rings around Fulham's defence.
I find it strange in the age of ping-pong football where players aren't allowed to take two steps with the ball before they pass it, that the two acknowledged best players in the world, Ronaldo & Messi are known for what?
Could it be running with the ball, taking on players, dribbling - surely not?



I find this entire comment strange!!

Isn't the fact they do what they do the reason WHY they're the best in the world? Or could Nzonzi and Dunn do exactly the same, if only they were allowed to dribble?
blink.gif
Exactly, what it tells you is that there's so little space and so much pressure on the ball that you have to be a brilliant player to be able to hold onto the ball for any length of time.

My beef is that even in situations where there is no pressure and they could easily take it forward 10 or 20 yards they still want to pass the ball at the earliest opportunity - very often to players who are under pressure and have no choice but to pass it straight back!
Some like it Hottiger
QUOTE(Copy Nooker @ May 14 2010, 03:43 PM) *

QUOTE(Some like it Hottiger @ May 14 2010, 01:27 PM) *

QUOTE(Roland Deschain @ May 14 2010, 12:18 PM) *

QUOTE(Copy Nooker @ May 13 2010, 01:42 PM) *

How the hell did Fulham get so far in this competition?
I thought they were crap.
A bunch of journeymen trying to play like Barca with predictable results.
Atletico weren't so great either, but at least they had a couple of class players in Forlán and Agüero who ran rings around Fulham's defence.
I find it strange in the age of ping-pong football where players aren't allowed to take two steps with the ball before they pass it, that the two acknowledged best players in the world, Ronaldo & Messi are known for what?
Could it be running with the ball, taking on players, dribbling - surely not?



I find this entire comment strange!!

Isn't the fact they do what they do the reason WHY they're the best in the world? Or could Nzonzi and Dunn do exactly the same, if only they were allowed to dribble?
blink.gif
Exactly, what it tells you is that there's so little space and so much pressure on the ball that you have to be a brilliant player to be able to hold onto the ball for any length of time.

My beef is that even in situations were there is no pressure and they could easily take it forward 10 or 20 yards they still want to pass the ball at the earliest opportunity - very often to players who are under pressure and have no choice but to pass it straight back!
Yes, but doing so pulls defenders out of position. There's no point running with the ball for 20 yards if you then just get surrounded by defenders and have to turn back, pass the ball back to your central defender who has no choice but to lump it forward.
Exiled Toon
QUOTE(Some like it Hottiger @ May 14 2010, 03:47 PM) *

QUOTE(Copy Nooker @ May 14 2010, 03:43 PM) *

QUOTE(Some like it Hottiger @ May 14 2010, 01:27 PM) *

QUOTE(Roland Deschain @ May 14 2010, 12:18 PM) *

QUOTE(Copy Nooker @ May 13 2010, 01:42 PM) *

How the hell did Fulham get so far in this competition?
I thought they were crap.
A bunch of journeymen trying to play like Barca with predictable results.
Atletico weren't so great either, but at least they had a couple of class players in Forlán and Agüero who ran rings around Fulham's defence.
I find it strange in the age of ping-pong football where players aren't allowed to take two steps with the ball before they pass it, that the two acknowledged best players in the world, Ronaldo & Messi are known for what?
Could it be running with the ball, taking on players, dribbling - surely not?



I find this entire comment strange!!

Isn't the fact they do what they do the reason WHY they're the best in the world? Or could Nzonzi and Dunn do exactly the same, if only they were allowed to dribble?
blink.gif
Exactly, what it tells you is that there's so little space and so much pressure on the ball that you have to be a brilliant player to be able to hold onto the ball for any length of time.

My beef is that even in situations were there is no pressure and they could easily take it forward 10 or 20 yards they still want to pass the ball at the earliest opportunity - very often to players who are under pressure and have no choice but to pass it straight back!
Yes, but doing so pulls defenders out of position. There's no point running with the ball for 20 yards if you then just get surrounded by defenders and have to turn back, pass the ball back to your central defender who has no choice but to lump it forward.



Should someone tell Gutierrez this unsure.gif
Some like it Hottiger
QUOTE(Exiled Toon @ May 14 2010, 04:17 PM) *

QUOTE(Some like it Hottiger @ May 14 2010, 03:47 PM) *

QUOTE(Copy Nooker @ May 14 2010, 03:43 PM) *

QUOTE(Some like it Hottiger @ May 14 2010, 01:27 PM) *

QUOTE(Roland Deschain @ May 14 2010, 12:18 PM) *

QUOTE(Copy Nooker @ May 13 2010, 01:42 PM) *

How the hell did Fulham get so far in this competition?
I thought they were crap.
A bunch of journeymen trying to play like Barca with predictable results.
Atletico weren't so great either, but at least they had a couple of class players in Forlán and Agüero who ran rings around Fulham's defence.
I find it strange in the age of ping-pong football where players aren't allowed to take two steps with the ball before they pass it, that the two acknowledged best players in the world, Ronaldo & Messi are known for what?
Could it be running with the ball, taking on players, dribbling - surely not?



I find this entire comment strange!!

Isn't the fact they do what they do the reason WHY they're the best in the world? Or could Nzonzi and Dunn do exactly the same, if only they were allowed to dribble?
blink.gif
Exactly, what it tells you is that there's so little space and so much pressure on the ball that you have to be a brilliant player to be able to hold onto the ball for any length of time.

My beef is that even in situations were there is no pressure and they could easily take it forward 10 or 20 yards they still want to pass the ball at the earliest opportunity - very often to players who are under pressure and have no choice but to pass it straight back!
Yes, but doing so pulls defenders out of position. There's no point running with the ball for 20 yards if you then just get surrounded by defenders and have to turn back, pass the ball back to your central defender who has no choice but to lump it forward.



Should someone tell Gutierrez this unsure.gif
A bit harsh, Gutierrez does try to take men on - and has been fairly successful at doing that in the championship at least. It's his crossing that is a much bigger problem. You need a combination of strategies, being able to run with the ball on occasions is good, but if that's all you do then - unless you've got some really good players in your team - it's easy to defend against. Playing a passing game also depends on having a mobile central midfield who will be able to find space and can link up play well.
General Lee Speaking
QUOTE(Some like it Hottiger @ May 14 2010, 04:35 PM) *

QUOTE(Exiled Toon @ May 14 2010, 04:17 PM) *

QUOTE(Some like it Hottiger @ May 14 2010, 03:47 PM) *

QUOTE(Copy Nooker @ May 14 2010, 03:43 PM) *

QUOTE(Some like it Hottiger @ May 14 2010, 01:27 PM) *

QUOTE(Roland Deschain @ May 14 2010, 12:18 PM) *

QUOTE(Copy Nooker @ May 13 2010, 01:42 PM) *

How the hell did Fulham get so far in this competition?
I thought they were crap.
A bunch of journeymen trying to play like Barca with predictable results.
Atletico weren't so great either, but at least they had a couple of class players in Forlán and Agüero who ran rings around Fulham's defence.
I find it strange in the age of ping-pong football where players aren't allowed to take two steps with the ball before they pass it, that the two acknowledged best players in the world, Ronaldo & Messi are known for what?
Could it be running with the ball, taking on players, dribbling - surely not?



I find this entire comment strange!!

Isn't the fact they do what they do the reason WHY they're the best in the world? Or could Nzonzi and Dunn do exactly the same, if only they were allowed to dribble?
blink.gif
Exactly, what it tells you is that there's so little space and so much pressure on the ball that you have to be a brilliant player to be able to hold onto the ball for any length of time.

My beef is that even in situations were there is no pressure and they could easily take it forward 10 or 20 yards they still want to pass the ball at the earliest opportunity - very often to players who are under pressure and have no choice but to pass it straight back!
Yes, but doing so pulls defenders out of position. There's no point running with the ball for 20 yards if you then just get surrounded by defenders and have to turn back, pass the ball back to your central defender who has no choice but to lump it forward.



Should someone tell Gutierrez this unsure.gif
A bit harsh, Gutierrez does try to take men on - and has been fairly successful at doing that in the championship at least. It's his crossing that is a much bigger problem. You need a combination of strategies, being able to run with the ball on occasions is good, but if that's all you do then - unless you've got some really good players in your team - it's easy to defend against. Playing a passing game also depends on having a mobile central midfield who will be able to find space and can link up play well.


Gutierrez regularly has an option right in front of him to pass to and he chooses to take on another player. He's exciting to watch and can do great things but not often enough and he really needs to simplify his play and get his head up mre often to see what's going in front of him. I love him being in my team but he has the talent to do more.
Black country toon
dull game so far, and since when were bayern munich stripes?
N`LouisNUFC
Mourinho is class. 2 Champs League, UEFA Cup, won the domestic league in 3 different countries, plenty of domestic cups and he's still relatively young.
w33d
he sure is 'The Special One'
Dembas Strawberry Syrup
QUOTE(N`LouisNUFC @ May 22 2010, 09:43 PM) *

Mourinho is class. 2 Champs League, UEFA Cup, won the domestic league in 3 different countries, plenty of domestic cups and he's still relatively young.

True, the man simply can do no wrong

It was a boring one sided final though, disappointing for the neutral like myself sad.gif
Dorty Mag
Nearly fell asleep watching that last night. Bayern were so predictable, just get it to Robben and see what he could do.

Blackpool and Cardiff served up the more entertaining game (well, the first half at least).

Barcelona must have been kicking themselves watching that last night.
Big Bad Titus
Dont think it was that boring myself. I love watching games like the Blackpool Cardiff one with lots of goals and action but I do like watching more tactical games like the Champions League final.

Football isnt just about goals, for me there is a lot of enjoyment in watching a good defensive performance although being a centre half im maybe being biased biggrin.gif

Anyway, well done Jose - would really like to see him go to Madrid now and sort them out. wacko.gif
Dorty Mag
QUOTE(Big Bad Titus @ May 23 2010, 03:55 PM) *

Dont think it was that boring myself. I love watching games like the Blackpool Cardiff one with lots of goals and action but I do like watching more tactical games like the Champions League final.

Football isnt just about goals, for me there is a lot of enjoyment in watching a good defensive performance although being a centre half im maybe being biased biggrin.gif

Anyway, well done Jose - would really like to see him go to Madrid now and sort them out. wacko.gif



I like tactical games too but when it is eleven men behind the ball it can become a bit boring laugh.gif

Of course, the argument is we would be pleased if England or Newcastle played similar tactics and won silverware.

It would have been interesting to see Bayern score first because Inter would then have had to resort to Plan B......if they had one, that is laugh.gif

Similar to Greece in 2004, I think their name was on the cup. The two goals from Milito were very well taken but to be fair, I can't remember many other chances for either side apart from Muller's miss at the start of the second half.

The Germans tried to get the ball to Robben as often as possible but on the left hand side they had a young player (can't remember his name) who was far too standoffish and afraid to get into advanced positions. And that seemed to sum the Germans up......should have gone for the jugular with attack after attack when they had the possession and the chance to do so.

Overall, a poor final (like last year's to be fair)
Big Bad Titus
QUOTE(Dorty Mag @ May 23 2010, 05:15 PM) *

QUOTE(Big Bad Titus @ May 23 2010, 03:55 PM) *

Dont think it was that boring myself. I love watching games like the Blackpool Cardiff one with lots of goals and action but I do like watching more tactical games like the Champions League final.

Football isnt just about goals, for me there is a lot of enjoyment in watching a good defensive performance although being a centre half im maybe being biased biggrin.gif

Anyway, well done Jose - would really like to see him go to Madrid now and sort them out. wacko.gif



I like tactical games too but when it is eleven men behind the ball it can become a bit boring laugh.gif

Of course, the argument is we would be pleased if England or Newcastle played similar tactics and won silverware.

It would have been interesting to see Bayern score first because Inter would then have had to resort to Plan B......if they had one, that is laugh.gif

Similar to Greece in 2004, I think their name was on the cup. The two goals from Milito were very well taken but to be fair, I can't remember many other chances for either side apart from Muller's miss at the start of the second half.

The Germans tried to get the ball to Robben as often as possible but on the left hand side they had a young player (can't remeber his name) who was far too standoffish and afraid to get into advanced positions. And that seemed to sum the Germans up......should have gone for the jugular with attack after attack when they had the possession and the chance to do so.


Agree with a lot of that Dorts although rather than it just being negative from Inter I think Bayern made it easy for them to play negative, I was very disappointed with them and cant really believe they got to the final.

Like you say they just looked for Robben and when that didnt work they had nowt else.

Jose just knows how to win football matches and as you say id watch football like that every week at the toon if it yielded the same outcomes.

I cant stand people that come out and moan after games about the opposition "parking the bus" - if they do its your job to break them down, its football not ice skating - there are no added bonus points for style or possession percentages.
Dorty Mag
QUOTE(Big Bad Titus @ May 23 2010, 04:21 PM) *

QUOTE(Dorty Mag @ May 23 2010, 05:15 PM) *

QUOTE(Big Bad Titus @ May 23 2010, 03:55 PM) *

Dont think it was that boring myself. I love watching games like the Blackpool Cardiff one with lots of goals and action but I do like watching more tactical games like the Champions League final.

Football isnt just about goals, for me there is a lot of enjoyment in watching a good defensive performance although being a centre half im maybe being biased biggrin.gif

Anyway, well done Jose - would really like to see him go to Madrid now and sort them out. wacko.gif



I like tactical games too but when it is eleven men behind the ball it can become a bit boring laugh.gif

Of course, the argument is we would be pleased if England or Newcastle played similar tactics and won silverware.

It would have been interesting to see Bayern score first because Inter would then have had to resort to Plan B......if they had one, that is laugh.gif

Similar to Greece in 2004, I think their name was on the cup. The two goals from Milito were very well taken but to be fair, I can't remember many other chances for either side apart from Muller's miss at the start of the second half.

The Germans tried to get the ball to Robben as often as possible but on the left hand side they had a young player (can't remeber his name) who was far too standoffish and afraid to get into advanced positions. And that seemed to sum the Germans up......should have gone for the jugular with attack after attack when they had the possession and the chance to do so.


Agree with a lot of that Dorts although rather than it just being negative from Inter I think Bayern made it easy for them to play negative, I was very disappointed with them and cant really believe they got to the final.

Like you say they just looked for Robben and when that didnt work they had nowt else.

Jose just knows how to win football matches and as you say id watch football like that every week at the toon if it yielded the same outcomes.

I cant stand people that come out and moan after games about the opposition "parking the bus" - if they do its your job to break them down, its football not ice skating - there are no added bonus points for style or possession percentages.



Too many Bayern players froze last night, the little Russian guy up front had a poor game and didn't get the support he needed. But with 59% of possession, the Germans should have done a lot more with the ball.

But for me, the biggest decision of the night was on which channel to watch the game - ITV HD or Sky HD? laugh.gif I started off on Sky but Andy Gray was the pundit and when he mumbled some word that sounded like a cross between OCH and AYE which came out as a AYCCHHHE, I switched over bbc laugh.gif

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Dont think it was that boring myself. I love watching games like the Blackpool Cardiff one with lots of goals and action but I do like watching more tactical games like the Champions League final.

Football isnt just about goals, for me there is a lot of enjoyment in watching a good defensive performance although being a centre half im maybe being biased biggrin.gif

Anyway, well done Jose - would really like to see him go to Madrid now and sort them out. wacko.gif



I like tactical games too but when it is eleven men behind the ball it can become a bit boring laugh.gif

Of course, the argument is we would be pleased if England or Newcastle played similar tactics and won silverware.

It would have been interesting to see Bayern score first because Inter would then have had to resort to Plan B......if they had one, that is laugh.gif

Similar to Greece in 2004, I think their name was on the cup. The two goals from Milito were very well taken but to be fair, I can't remember many other chances for either side apart from Muller's miss at the start of the second half.

The Germans tried to get the ball to Robben as often as possible but on the left hand side they had a young player (can't remeber his name) who was far too standoffish and afraid to get into advanced positions. And that seemed to sum the Germans up......should have gone for the jugular with attack after attack when they had the possession and the chance to do so.


Agree with a lot of that Dorts although rather than it just being negative from Inter I think Bayern made it easy for them to play negative, I was very disappointed with them and cant really believe they got to the final.

Like you say they just looked for Robben and when that didnt work they had nowt else.

Jose just knows how to win football matches and as you say id watch football like that every week at the toon if it yielded the same outcomes.

I cant stand people that come out and moan after games about the opposition "parking the bus" - if they do its your job to break them down, its football not ice skating - there are no added bonus points for style or possession percentages.



Too many Bayern players froze last night, the little Russian guy up front had a poor game and didn't get the support he needed. But with 59% of possession, the Germans should have done a lot more with the ball.

But for me, the biggest decision of the night was on which channel to watch the game - ITV HD or Sky HD? laugh.gif I started off on Sky but Andy Gray was the pundit and when he mumbled some word that sounded like a cross between OCH and AYE which came out as a AYCCHHHE, I switched over bbc laugh.gif


I can handle Sky up until when they go to the pundits in the studio - wouldnt mind a gun with 1 bullet and Souness, Gullit and Redknapp lined up in a row biggrin.gif
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