And McCarthy.

What an absolute fuck up by West Ham.

Looks like Robbie Keane is going back to Spurs AGAIN.

Karen Brady, Sir Geoff Hurst, Avram Grant, Sir Trevor Brooking, the ICF, Tony Cottee, Alan Devonshire, Alf Garnett, David Sullivan, Glenn Roeder, the little shit who wears the Russian hat and military uniform, Scotty Parker, even Sir Bobby Moore......your boys took one hell of a beating

Fuckin' hell.

Slightly boring Wigan getting the goal, but glad to see West Ham down.
So its like this:
If Rovers win against Wolves they're safe.
If Rovers draw against Wolves then all three of the teams on 39 pts have to win to put Rovers down.
If Rovers lose to Wolves then two of those teams have to win to put Rovers down.
I'm not worried.

I would love it if all 5 teams won next week, it would be quality entertainment!

It's just a pity they can't all be relegated

West ham fans relegation for their chants at roeder. They can go and blow their bubbles at Brighton next year. The prem will not miss them

Now I'm off for the Big One - Ice-hockey World Championship final: Finland versus Sweden!!!!

Six years without a trophy, my heart bleeds

I agree he maybe needs to change his ways slightly, be less stubborn and make a few changes but there is no way on earth they should get rid of him after what he has done. Who would they get in to replace him that would do any better?

If I were them I would flog Fabregas in the summer for £50 million if they can get it, he clearly hasnt wanted to be there 100% for about the last 3 years. Then reinvest part or all of that in 3 or 4 good players and they will be right up their challenging next season.

There's been a lot of talk about them coming in for Chris Samba.
He would certainly beaf up there defence.

Think he is exactly the type of player they need to be honest.

Yeah and Samba will be available on a cheapie during the summer. After all, he won't want to be playing in the Championship next season

That's successive relegations from the Premiership with two different clubs for Avram 'Motionless' Grant.

If there is a God, please let the Mackems sack Geordie Steve Bruce and replace him with Avram. Then he can do it three times in three seasons

Dont think they need to replace Bruce, he is doing a sterling job

Grant sacked.

How long does a managers success allow a club to let him under perform though, there's no question Wenger has done a fantastic job with Arsenal but the last few years he seems unwilling to try and take the club forward. Maybe there is more to it behind the scenes that Arsenal are just happy to be a top 4 club taking the Champions League money and making a profit and just sitting back and waiting for the wheels to fall off Chelsea, Man Utd & Man City with the new financial rules coming in.

As a neutral it's frustrating to watch Arsenal playing good football but failing to create much in the box, so god knows how the home fans feel having witnessed the results they've had to put up with this season and then be told to stump up a further 6.5% to watch it again next year, they'll soon be getting fed up and I think judging by the empty seats today they maybe already have.

Bruce sackless

Useless fuckers, that's four months too late

I know what you are saying mate, they can be frustrating to watch but I think the main thing is that whilst they havent won anything for 6 years they are still up there challenging and always qualifying for the Champions League - to get rid of him whilst they are doing that after what he has built there would be a massive massive risk that could really spectacularly backfire.

Lets be honest they are not that far off winning things and its not like they are one of these teams literally just wanting to come 4th. They were in with half decent shout for the league title until not long back and a few results went against them.

Totally agree that Wenger probably needs to change his strategy slightly and spend a bit of cash to add some experienced quality to what he has got but like you say whilst they are consistently qualifying for the CL I dont think its a massive issue from the outside looking in.

Not a West Ham fan but I'd much rather have seen them stay up than that joke club Wigan. Still, leading 2-0 and losing 3-2 is a bit pathetic... Grant is a joke.

me 2 (about West-Ham not that i'm a joke ) but Wigan can still go down

Have to say I lost all respect for West Ham after they taunted Roeder about his brain tumour.

Not a particular fan of Sullivan and Gold either come to think of it.

I quite like Martinez so wouldnt mind seeing Wigan stay up.

I'd have Ashley in charge any day rather than those 2 inept tossers.

Definitely mate. The whole situation where it looked like Grant had been given the boot but ended up staying (im guessing because the alternative options they were trying to line up turned them down in the end) was where their season just totally fell apart.

Im not a massive fan of Grant as a manager but he wasnt treated very well and the constant comments about players etc from the board just really didnt help matters for them and they have ended up getting what they deserve I think.

I have to say I do like the look of Swansea's player of the season Nathan Dyer. He has a big future in the game.

Michael Owen on the parade today, I was going to put this up as a caption thingy...until i noticed the ribbons

Go on. Drop it under the front wheels of the bus you useless cunt.

Like the ribbons

Fair play to him, he's got something now that most scousers dont have and thats a Premier League winners medal

Are watching Stevie G? That's for you silly back pass againts Chelsea the
season before the one just gone.

As if things couldnt get any worse for West Ham fans it seems like they are to be kicked whilst they are down.

As if getting relegated wasnt bad enough it seems like they are gonna get Fat Sam as their new manager

And at a time when the wage bill needs to be dropped, it might need to be raised actually to accomodate the massive backroom team that idiot will be wanting

Sure the fans will love his free flowing football too

What a fat useless cunt...

Fat Sam really is delusional



Trust me Sam, it was down to results and the way you performed as a manager

That's funny, I'm sure he had the best start to a Premier League season since Keegan for us. It was entirely down to new ownership. The football wasn't great and the results went slightly down hill but it wasn't 'sacking form'. I think we were still 11th when he got sacked.

You would think things couldn't get any worse, but following his appointment, who does he want to bring to the club as one of his first signings.......?

None other than Spit the Diouf

I don't really understand how it's funny I reckon he'd go well for them. He did great with Bolton and with West Ham a similar type side he'd probably get them up. Plus Diouf would be a great player in the Championship even if he is a knob.

I think you must have been watching a different team mate.

If he had been doing well then im pretty sure that even Ashley wouldnt have gone through the expense and hassle of sacking him. If it was a case of Ashley simply wanting his own man in then he would have sacked him straight away. He was given his chance to prove himself and failed and dont let a few decent results at the start of the season fool you otherwise.

We were playing awful percentage football that wasn't getting results and was rightly sacked for me. Don't think ive ever heard a manager spout so much self absorbed shite as he does.

Think he will do well at West Ham like because he is a great manager if all you want is shite mediocrity bordering on poor which is pretty much them to a tee.

I remember his interview after losing to Derby (who were relegated with 10 points), where he said that he thought that we had done enough to contain Derby

Talk about a lack of ambition

I wasn't. I don't like the guy either and never wanted him but we had a good start. It was everything about him wanting a different man. The team barely had time to gel and if he was kept on I reckon we could have had a couple of decent seasons. I don't see how he was expected to leave his mark on us in such a short space of time. I seriously doubt he'd have got relegated and face it, the club was in freefall anyway. I think managers need time, exactly like players need to settle in.

Aye - the fact that 4 of those points came from us (and it only wasnt 6 due to a last minute equaliser) sums up all you need to know about him and how he had us playing.

He left a pretty decent mark in such a short space of time, unfortunately it was more like a skid mark

Graeme Souness made a good start. Enough said!

He had a little bit longer than Allardyce, ET. People that keep screaming for managers heads within 6 months are exactly the reason we're doing shite now.
I'll reiterate that I never wanted Allardyce here before people think I did. I'm just saying he didn't get enough time. And people like Souness had too much time.

Allardyce sometimes sounds like he is depressed.

Just like normal then

People seem to get obsessed with giving managers time automatically just because of the likes of Fergie at Man U. Im all for it as continuity is obviously a good thing to have where possible but ive said it before and ill say it again there is no point giving someone time when you can clearly see things are bad and unlikely to improve.

If the team is doing shite yet you can still see a few positives and its maybe a case of possibly going a couple of steps back to go forward then thats fine but for me there was never going to be any way forward with Allardyce's "containment" football where he thought more about what the opposition were going to do than his own team.

I was actually pleased when we got him as I thought he would be intelligent enough to take the good parts from Bolton such as the organisation and defensive tightness etc but be able to mix that with the better quality of attacking players we had and play some effective football. Instead he just tried to turn us into Bolton and unsurprisingly it didnt work.

Rather than not been given enough time id seen more than enough in 24 games under him to be able to suggest he had had more time than he should have. One of the best decisions Ashley has made getting shot of him, its just a shame it cost us a fortune due to his ridiculous backroom team and mostly shite signings.

You trying to tell me that given more time under Sam the likes of Casapa, Smith and Geremi would have turned into good players??

Utter fucking waste of space that guy, well and truely on a par with the likes of Souness, Gullit and Dalglish.

Sorry Throbbing Crotch but your just wrong about Allardyce. He was making such fundamental errors in trying to play a style of football that didn't suit the players but he was the only one who couldn't see that. He signed dud after dud despite his wonderful backroom set up. Everything that came out of his mouth was pure shite and he was exposed for the charlatan he truely is. Did you not see the Portsmouth and Liverpool home games?

To be fair, he did bring Beye and Enrique in. On the other hand he also bought Smith, Rozenhal and Cacapa so kind of leans in the favour of poor business