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N`LouisNUFC
Haye weighs in at 15st 8lbs and Valuev 22st 8lbs.



Love to see Haye win, but think it will be Valuev in 5.
Gala
I've gone from loving the boxing when I was a kid growing up watching Leonard, Duran, Hagler, Hearns, Curry, Honeyghan, McGuigan, Tyson and a few others but now I couldn't give a shit.

I watched Eubank put Watson in a wheelchair and Benn do the same to McClellan.

Horrible sport.
Dorty Mag
QUOTE(Gala @ Nov 6 2009, 06:18 PM) *

I've gone from loving the boxing when I was a kid growing up watching Leonard, Duran, Hagler, Hearns, Curry, Honeyghan, McGuigan, Tyson and a few others but now I couldn't give a shit.

I watched Eubank put Watson in a wheelchair and Benn do the same to McClellan.

Horrible sport.



Cage fighting is even worse, really can't see the point of it (and the crowd egging the fighters on is barbaric).
magtillidie
Would love to watch this one but Sky can p!$$ off if they think i'm going to pay £15 for it, Haye has achieved nothing yet so where do they get off charging so much, no doubt if they charged a more reasonable £10 they'd have got far more viewers.
Dorty Mag
QUOTE(magtillidie @ Nov 6 2009, 06:50 PM) *

Would love to watch this one but Sky can p!$$ off if they think i'm going to pay £15 for it, Haye has achieved nothing yet so where do they get off charging so much, no doubt if they charged a more reasonable £10 they'd have got far more viewers.



I won't be paying it either.

Just watched the first round of the (in)famous Benn v McClellan fight (haven't seen it since watching it live in 1995). Totally feking gruesome blink.gif
Dembas Strawberry Syrup
Well in my opinion, Haye just does not know what he's got himself in for.

That Valuev reminds me a lot of that guy in Rocky 4 when he described Ivan Drago "whatever he hits, he destroys"

And thats what i think'll happen on Saturday, i'll be amazed if Haye lasts beyond the 5th
Nufc Navan
Will get a link on the internet do doubt.

What time does the fight start at?
Dembas Strawberry Syrup
QUOTE(Nufc Navan @ Nov 6 2009, 09:32 PM) *

Will get a link on the internet do doubt.

What time does the fight start at?

Well the Sky Box Office transmission starts at 8pm, dont know when it'll start though as i dont know the undercard
Black country toon
QUOTE(Yellow Dazzla @ Nov 6 2009, 08:50 PM) *

Well in my opinion, Haye just does not know what he's got himself in for.

That Valuev reminds me a lot of that guy in Rocky 4 when he described Ivan Drago "whatever he hits, he destroys"

And thats what i think'll happen on Saturday, i'll be amazed if Haye lasts beyond the 5th

yeah exactly like rocky, didn't know guys with such height and weight differences could be in the same ring
Nufc Navan
My Aul lad has smacked €50 in Valuev @ 6/5. I've put a fiver on Haye going down between the 4th and 6th rounds @ 14/1.
Whitley Mag
Valuev on points.
Nufc Navan
If anyone has a link, a Pm would be greatly appreciated.
Keegans Curly Pubes
QUOTE(Nufc Navan @ Nov 7 2009, 08:53 PM) *

If anyone has a link, a Pm would be greatly appreciated.


If anyone wants a link, i think i've found a decent one so let me know and i'll pm you it! smile.gif
N`LouisNUFC
Linky please biggrin.gif
Keegans Curly Pubes
QUOTE(N`LouisNUFC @ Nov 7 2009, 09:31 PM) *

Linky please biggrin.gif


Get it working ok?
Nufc Navan
Tip top for me anyway. wacko.gif
Nufc Navan
Argh! Cut out. sad.gif
Keegans Curly Pubes
QUOTE(Nufc Navan @ Nov 7 2009, 09:45 PM) *

Argh! Cut out. sad.gif


Was just about to say! mad.gif
Keegans Curly Pubes
QUOTE(Keegans Curly Pubes @ Nov 7 2009, 09:46 PM) *

QUOTE(Nufc Navan @ Nov 7 2009, 09:45 PM) *

Argh! Cut out. sad.gif


Was just about to say! mad.gif


Refreshed it and its working again! biggrin.gif
N`LouisNUFC
He's a fucking beast!
Nufc Navan
Haye won the 3rd, Valuev won the 4th IMO.
N`LouisNUFC
Valuev gets the 5th too. Haye probably got the 2nd. Pretty close.
Nufc Navan
Valuev probably shading it after the 8th. Valuev is very clumsy, but I reckon Haye will let his guard down before the end of the fight and Valuev will do some damage.
N`LouisNUFC
I've got it 5-4 to Valuev after the 9th.
Dembas Strawberry Syrup
Valuev's shaded it for me in my view, but im impressed with Haye
Nufc Navan
Valuev definately won the 10th.
Nufc Navan
11th was close. Hard to tell who won it.
N`LouisNUFC
Gotta get the KO this round. Valuev up 7-4 for me.
Nufc Navan
Haye definately won the last. Gonna be close..
N`LouisNUFC
Great last round.

Valuev by 2 for me though.
Dembas Strawberry Syrup
Haye got the 12th, i've got it 6-6 in terms of rounds

Im going though for Valuev on a split decision
Nufc Navan
Haye didn't do enough for me overall. Avoided the Ko for most of the fight then left it too late to go on the attack.


Dreadful fight IMO.
Dembas Strawberry Syrup
I dont beleive it, Haye's got the decision swoon.gif
N`LouisNUFC
HAYE WINS!
Nufc Navan
Shite decision. No way did Haye win that fight. You cannot base a whole fight on the last 2 rounds.
Dembas Strawberry Syrup
QUOTE(Nufc Navan @ Nov 7 2009, 10:54 PM) *

Shite decision. No way did Haye win that fight. You cannot base a whole fight on the last 2 rounds.

I dont know, did Valuev do enough when he was on top to show enough aggression?
Nufc Navan
QUOTE(Yellow Dazzla @ Nov 7 2009, 10:58 PM) *

QUOTE(Nufc Navan @ Nov 7 2009, 10:54 PM) *

Shite decision. No way did Haye win that fight. You cannot base a whole fight on the last 2 rounds.

I dont know, did Valuev do enough when he was on top to show enough aggression?

Aye but Haye fought negatively for 7/8 rounds. Landed good punches though, but I thought Valuev shaded it overall.

Again, was a dreadful fight.
Dembas Strawberry Syrup
QUOTE(Nufc Navan @ Nov 7 2009, 10:59 PM) *

QUOTE(Yellow Dazzla @ Nov 7 2009, 10:58 PM) *

QUOTE(Nufc Navan @ Nov 7 2009, 10:54 PM) *

Shite decision. No way did Haye win that fight. You cannot base a whole fight on the last 2 rounds.

I dont know, did Valuev do enough when he was on top to show enough aggression?

Aye but Haye fought negatively for 7/8 rounds. Landed good punches though, but I thought Valuev shaded it overall.

Again, was a dreadful fight.

True, it might take another viewing of it to fully understand why Haye won it, it wasn't pretty.

Haye did land good punches and that i think is why the judges have given him the win, that is whats needed to win in the amateur form

Any bets on him fighting one of the Klitschko brothers next?
UmarToon
QUOTE(Yellow Dazzla @ Nov 7 2009, 11:05 PM) *

QUOTE(Nufc Navan @ Nov 7 2009, 10:59 PM) *

QUOTE(Yellow Dazzla @ Nov 7 2009, 10:58 PM) *

QUOTE(Nufc Navan @ Nov 7 2009, 10:54 PM) *

Shite decision. No way did Haye win that fight. You cannot base a whole fight on the last 2 rounds.

I dont know, did Valuev do enough when he was on top to show enough aggression?

Aye but Haye fought negatively for 7/8 rounds. Landed good punches though, but I thought Valuev shaded it overall.

Again, was a dreadful fight.

True, it might take another viewing of it to fully understand why Haye won it, it wasn't pretty.

Haye did land good punches and that i think is why the judges have given him the win, that is whats needed to win in the amateur form

Any bets on him fighting one of the Klitschko brothers next?


He won't be wasting his time hanging about thats for sure. Great fight for a boxing fan, quite boring for the neutral (according to my uncle). I thought Valuev shaded it but only just. I was worried the biased judges would give it to Valuev by a wide margin. Holyfield dominated Valuev in his last fight and lost, and compared to him, Haye didn't do much at all in terms of offence. However, glad he came out on top. He's a no nonsense operator and British and World boxing needs more people like him and Carl Froch.

For those neutrals who thought it was quite boring, watch a real right next week when MANNY PACQUIAO takes on MIGUEL COTTO. That one should be cracker. In the early hours of Sunday morning, on Sky Sports.
magtillidie
QUOTE(Nufc Navan @ Nov 7 2009, 10:54 PM) *

Shite decision. No way did Haye win that fight. You cannot base a whole fight on the last 2 rounds.


Haven't seen the fight so hard to comment, but listened on 5 live and all 4 had Haye, 3 of them had said 116-112 and 1 had it 115-113. Boxing can normally be deceiving, while it seems one boxer is on the back foot the other may not be getting many scoring shots in.
N`LouisNUFC
QUOTE(magtillidie @ Nov 8 2009, 05:01 PM) *
QUOTE(Nufc Navan @ Nov 7 2009, 10:54 PM) *

Shite decision. No way did Haye win that fight. You cannot base a whole fight on the last 2 rounds.


Haven't seen the fight so hard to comment, but listened on 5 live and all 4 had Haye, 3 of them had said 116-112 and 1 had it 115-113. Boxing can normally be deceiving, while it seems one boxer is on the back foot the other may not be getting many scoring shots in.


There's been lots said today about the TV commentary, compared to 5Live commentary. TV was very negative towards Haye saying he isn't doing enough and 5Live was saying he is doing exactly what he needed. Seems to be a lot of mixed views on the fight as a result of that...

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