Big Bad Titus
May 10 2010, 10:50 PM
QUOTE(Owens Left foot @ May 10 2010, 10:33 PM)

All I want from the World Cup is for England to fucking hump the US 'soccer loving muther fuckers' 7 or 8 nil. I cannot stand those fat, waddling, fast food eating cunts and their 'we are mighter than thou' attitude.
Also they are all fucking morons!
That is my humble, and biased opinion and no-one will change that!

Whitley Mag
May 11 2010, 08:15 AM
Absolutely gutted. What a fucken cunt, he went as far as saying he didn't give a shit about England in his book, now he misses all the donkey work and gets a world cup spot?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/w...010/8673706.stmIn addition, he has been shit for the past 2 or 3 seasons.
QUOTE
Liverpool defender Jamie Carragher will be part of Fabio Capello's England World Cup squad that travels to South Africa in June, BBC Sport understands.
Whitley Mag
May 11 2010, 09:42 AM
Nigeria Squad Announced
Goalkeepers: Vincent Enyeama (Hapoel Tel Aviv, Israel), Dele Aiyenugba (Bnei Yehuda, Israel), Austin Ejide (Hapoel Petah Tikva, Israel), Bassey Akpan (Bayelsa United, Nigeria)
Defenders: Taye Taiwo (Marseille, France), Elderson Echiejile (Rennes, France), Chidi Odiah (CSKA Moscow, Russia), Onyekachi Apam (OG Nice, France), Joseph Yobo (Everton, England), Daniel Shittu (Bolton Wanderers, England), Ayodele Adeleye (Sparta Rotterdam, Netherlands), Rabiu Afolabi (SV Salzburg, Austria), Terna Suswan (Lobi Stars, Nigeria)
Midfielders: Chinedu Ogbuke Obasi (TSG Hoffenheim, Germany), John Utaka (Portsmouth, England), Brown Ideye (FC Sochaux, France), Peter Utaka (Odense Boldklub, Denmark), , Kalu Uche (Almeria, Spain), Dickson Etuhu (Fulham, England), John Mikel Obi (Chelsea, England), Sani Kaita (Alaniya, Russia), Haruna Lukman (AS Monaco, France), Yusuf Ayila (Dynamo Kiev, Ukraine), Osaze Odemwingie (Lokomotiv Moscow, Russia)
Strikers: Yakubu Aiyegbeni (Everton, England), Victor Anichebe (Everton, England), Nwankwo Kanu (Portsmouth, England), Obafemi Martins (Wolfsburg, Germany), Ikechukwu Uche (Real Zaragoza, Spain), Victor Obinna Nsofor (Malaga, Spain)
N`LouisNUFC
May 11 2010, 01:36 PM
Squad is:
Goalkeepers
Joe Hart, David James, Robert Green
Defenders
Leighton Baines, Jamie Carragher, Ashley Cole, Michael Dawson, Rio Ferdinand, Glen Johnson, Ledley King, John Terry, Matthew Upson, Stephen Warnock
Midfielders
Gareth Barry, Michael Carrick, Joe Cole, Steven Gerrard, Tom Huddlestone, Adam Johnson, Frank Lampard, Aaron Lennon, James Milner, Scott Parker, Theo Walcott, Shaun Wright-Phillips
Forwards
Darren Bent, Peter Crouch, Jermain Defoe, Emile Heskey, Wayne Rooney
Prince albert
May 11 2010, 01:55 PM
QUOTE(Some like it Hottiger @ May 5 2010, 11:40 AM)

QUOTE(Copy Nooker @ May 5 2010, 09:53 AM)

This is a strange set of posts - there is no way in hell that Carroll will be in the squad.
Have to agree with you, it's really odd. One season in the championship, a few goals for the team that finished top of the table... how can you start talking about him being picked for the world cup?

Dioes the name Bull ring any bells?
More a discussion of the relevant merits of Crouching Peter and wor Andy
Big Bad Titus
May 11 2010, 01:56 PM
QUOTE(Whitley_Mag @ May 11 2010, 08:15 AM)

Absolutely gutted. What a fucken cunt, he went as far as saying he didn't give a shit about England in his book, now he misses all the donkey work and gets a world cup spot?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/w...010/8673706.stmIn addition, he has been shit for the past 2 or 3 seasons.
QUOTE
Liverpool defender Jamie Carragher will be part of Fabio Capello's England World Cup squad that travels to South Africa in June, BBC Sport understands.
Absolute fucking joke
Prince albert
May 11 2010, 01:58 PM
QUOTE(N`LouisNUFC @ May 11 2010, 01:36 PM)

Squad is:
Goalkeepers
Joe Hart, David James, Robert Green
Defenders
Leighton Baines, Jamie Carragher, Ashley Cole, Michael Dawson, Rio Ferdinand, Glen Johnson, Ledley King, John Terry, Matthew Upson, Stephen Warnock
Midfielders
Gareth Barry, Michael Carrick, Joe Cole, Steven Gerrard, Tom Huddlestone, Adam Johnson, Frank Lampard, Aaron Lennon, James Milner, Scott Parker, Theo Walcott, Shaun Wright-Phillips
Forwards
Darren Bent, Peter Crouch, Jermain Defoe, Emile Heskey, Wayne Rooney
Decent midfield in there, and half decent defence however i ask myself how many of these would get into the "top" sides at international level, Rooney, Gerrard are the only ones for me. Most of these wouldn't even be squad players for the likes of germany, Italy, and Spain.
Quarter Finals at best i'm afraid
Whitley Mag
May 11 2010, 01:58 PM
QUOTE(N`LouisNUFC @ May 11 2010, 01:36 PM)

Squad is:
Goalkeepers
Joe Hart, David James, Robert Green
Defenders
Leighton Baines, Jamie Carragher, Ashley Cole, Michael Dawson, Rio Ferdinand, Glen Johnson, Ledley King, John Terry, Matthew Upson, Stephen Warnock
Midfielders
Gareth Barry, Michael Carrick, Joe Cole, Steven Gerrard, Tom Huddlestone, Adam Johnson, Frank Lampard, Aaron Lennon, James Milner, Scott Parker, Theo Walcott, Shaun Wright-Phillips
Forwards
Darren Bent, Peter Crouch, Jermain Defoe, Emile Heskey, Wayne Rooney
Source?
Carragher... Boooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Whitley Mag
May 11 2010, 02:01 PM
QUOTE(Prince albert @ May 11 2010, 01:58 PM)

QUOTE(N`LouisNUFC @ May 11 2010, 01:36 PM)

Squad is:
Goalkeepers
Joe Hart, David James, Robert Green
Defenders
Leighton Baines, Jamie Carragher, Ashley Cole, Michael Dawson, Rio Ferdinand, Glen Johnson, Ledley King, John Terry, Matthew Upson, Stephen Warnock
Midfielders
Gareth Barry, Michael Carrick, Joe Cole, Steven Gerrard, Tom Huddlestone, Adam Johnson, Frank Lampard, Aaron Lennon, James Milner, Scott Parker, Theo Walcott, Shaun Wright-Phillips
Forwards
Darren Bent, Peter Crouch, Jermain Defoe, Emile Heskey, Wayne Rooney
Decent midfield in there, and half decent defence however i ask myself how many of these would get into the "top" sides at international level, Rooney, Gerrard are the only ones for me.
Most of these wouldn't even be squad players for the likes of germany, Italy, and Spain.Quarter Finals at best i'm afraid
Rooney, Lampard, Gerrard, Terry, Joe Cole & Ashley Cole are all world class and would get into almost any national side i think.
I don't think we'll do too badly this year, semi-finals would be a success and once you get that far your always going to be in with a shout.
Copy Nooker
May 11 2010, 02:03 PM
Good to see Warnock, Adam Johnson, Bent given a chance, but what the fuck is Carragher doing there?
And why not Robinson in goal?
Nufc Navan
May 11 2010, 02:05 PM
I know it's none of my business, but I would be telling Carragher to go fuck himself if I was in Capello's position. Could not give a toss if he was defender of the year. In fact, he's been the opposite, which makes his inclusion even more baffling.
Alan Shearers Throbbing Crotch
May 11 2010, 02:06 PM
Emile Heskey ahead of Zamora?
Nufc Navan
May 11 2010, 02:08 PM
QUOTE(Whitley_Mag @ May 11 2010, 02:01 PM)

QUOTE(Prince albert @ May 11 2010, 01:58 PM)

QUOTE(N`LouisNUFC @ May 11 2010, 01:36 PM)

Squad is:
Goalkeepers
Joe Hart, David James, Robert Green
Defenders
Leighton Baines, Jamie Carragher, Ashley Cole, Michael Dawson, Rio Ferdinand, Glen Johnson, Ledley King, John Terry, Matthew Upson, Stephen Warnock
Midfielders
Gareth Barry, Michael Carrick, Joe Cole, Steven Gerrard, Tom Huddlestone, Adam Johnson, Frank Lampard, Aaron Lennon, James Milner, Scott Parker, Theo Walcott, Shaun Wright-Phillips
Forwards
Darren Bent, Peter Crouch, Jermain Defoe, Emile Heskey, Wayne Rooney
Decent midfield in there, and half decent defence however i ask myself how many of these would get into the "top" sides at international level, Rooney, Gerrard are the only ones for me.
Most of these wouldn't even be squad players for the likes of germany, Italy, and Spain.Quarter Finals at best i'm afraid
Rooney, Lampard, Gerrard, Terry, Joe Cole & Ashley Cole are all world class and would get into almost any national side i think.
I don't think we'll do too badly this year, semi-finals would be a success and once you get that far your always going to be in with a shout.
Joe Cole isn't world class. Leave that one out.
Ashley Cole is a very good full back but wouldn't have him in the world class bracket.
Gerrard usually is world class but he was shite this season by his standards.
Terry was poor enough also.
That leaves you with Lampard and Rooney as your only two world class players, in my opinion.
Nufc Navan
May 11 2010, 02:09 PM
QUOTE(Alan Shearers Throbbing Crotch @ May 11 2010, 02:06 PM)

Emile Heskey ahead of Zamora?

Also strange that Capello kept faith in Carlton Cole for so long only to drop him now.
Alan Shearers Throbbing Crotch
May 11 2010, 02:13 PM
QUOTE(Nufc Navan @ May 11 2010, 02:09 PM)

QUOTE(Alan Shearers Throbbing Crotch @ May 11 2010, 02:06 PM)

Emile Heskey ahead of Zamora?

Also strange that Capello kept faith in Carlton Cole for so long only to drop him now.
How's that strange? He's only scored once in something like 4 months.
betamax
May 11 2010, 02:14 PM
QUOTE
Ashley Cole is a very good full back but wouldn't have him in the world class bracket.
Really? Can you name that many who are better?
Roy Aitken`s Debut
May 11 2010, 02:14 PM
QUOTE(Copy Nooker @ May 11 2010, 02:03 PM)

Good to see Warnock, Adam Johnson, Bent given a chance, but what the fuck is Carragher doing there?
And why not Robinson in goal?
He isnt the player he was, and has signed a deal to work this summer stacking crates in Darwen Market for the glove stall.
Nufc Navan
May 11 2010, 02:19 PM
QUOTE(Alan Shearers Throbbing Crotch @ May 11 2010, 02:13 PM)

QUOTE(Nufc Navan @ May 11 2010, 02:09 PM)

QUOTE(Alan Shearers Throbbing Crotch @ May 11 2010, 02:06 PM)

Emile Heskey ahead of Zamora?

Also strange that Capello kept faith in Carlton Cole for so long only to drop him now.
How's that strange? He's only scored once in something like 4 months.
He was injured for a long period. Heskey hasn't stood out in that period either though.
Nufc Navan
May 11 2010, 02:20 PM
QUOTE(betamax @ May 11 2010, 02:14 PM)

QUOTE
Ashley Cole is a very good full back but wouldn't have him in the world class bracket.
Really? Can you name that many who are better?
I think Phillip Lahm, Lucio are both better.
Whitley Mag
May 11 2010, 02:31 PM
QUOTE(Nufc Navan @ May 11 2010, 02:20 PM)

QUOTE(betamax @ May 11 2010, 02:14 PM)

QUOTE
Ashley Cole is a very good full back but wouldn't have him in the world class bracket.
Really? Can you name that many who are better?
I think Phillip Lahm, Lucio are both better.
Well your not going to the World Cup, so gtfo

I like Lucio but assuming he is fit (he looked ok on Sunday), Cole is up there.
Totally disagree on Joe Cole, if he can stay fit, he is the complete winger, he can do it all, cross, dribble, has a bit of pace and is even a lot stronger than he used to be, look at the goal he created for Ashley on Sunday.
Gerrard has had a shit season, fair enough, still world class though.
Terry is the best centre half in the world, although a total twat.
Nufc Navan
May 11 2010, 02:38 PM
QUOTE(Whitley_Mag @ May 11 2010, 02:31 PM)

QUOTE(Nufc Navan @ May 11 2010, 02:20 PM)

QUOTE(betamax @ May 11 2010, 02:14 PM)

QUOTE
Ashley Cole is a very good full back but wouldn't have him in the world class bracket.
Really? Can you name that many who are better?
I think Phillip Lahm, Lucio are both better.
Well your not going to the World Cup, so gtfo

I like Lucio but assuming he is fit (he looked ok on Sunday), Cole is up there.
Totally disagree on Joe Cole, if he can stay fit, he is the complete winger, he can do it all, cross, dribble, has a bit of pace and is even a lot stronger than he used to be, look at the goal he created for Ashley on Sunday.
Gerrard has had a shit season, fair enough, still world class though.
Terry is the best centre half in the world, although a total twat.
Hey lets not go there.
Lucio was fucking immense in the home leg against Barcelona. Absolutely world class he was.
I just think Joe Cole is too much of a luxury player to be described world class. Only a few teams like Chelsea could afford to have him on their team, if you get what I'm saying. He does have a lot of talent, though.
Titch
May 11 2010, 02:41 PM
Ashley cole is a cunt, but one of the best fullbacks in the world. As for Lucio, then if we are talking about the lucio who plays for Inter, he is a centre half!
ASME-GIBBO1
May 11 2010, 03:42 PM
Australia favourites?? Surely they should be, I mean we would have won back in 2006 if Fabio Grosso wasn't a diver.. haha
N`LouisNUFC
May 11 2010, 04:03 PM
I must be the only person in this country who quite likes seeing Carragher back in the squad. Although he's had a poor season and although I don't like the fact that he's just come out of retirement for the glamourous part of the tournament, he's still a very good player for me and better that other options in his position. He can play RB and CB and even LB, so when we're going to have a squad with Glen Johnson as our only RB and then Rio and Terry as first choice CB's despite both having poor seasons, he can then cover those areas. Ledley King is also likely to be in there as a CB with either Upson or Dawson - probably Upson. We all know about King's problems and we all know that Upson has had a shocking season but Capello likes him, so Carragher is always going to be safe option when called upon to back up anyone.
Joe Cole is a world class player for me, not sure if he's a world class winger, though. Anyway, he's been pretty gash since he came back from injury, so wouldn't suprise me if he didn't go, especially with the for of the likes of Johnson, Lennon and Milner. Not sure what SWP is in there for, he's hardly played under Mancini and I would have had Downing ahead of him.
Ashley Cole is easily a world class FB, probably the best LB in the world actually, so that's nonsense to say otherwise. And why is he being compared to a CB?

I'd imagine the 7 that will be dropped will be Warnock, Dawson, SWP, Parker, Barry/Huddlestone (depending on Barry's injury), Bent
68 dead
May 11 2010, 04:47 PM
QUOTE(N`LouisNUFC @ May 11 2010, 04:03 PM)

I must be the only person in this country who quite likes seeing Carragher back in the squad. Although he's had a poor season and although I don't like the fact that he's just come out of retirement for the glamourous part of the tournament, he's still a very good player for me and better that other options in his position. He can play RB and CB and even LB, so when we're going to have a squad with Glen Johnson as our only RB and then Rio and Terry as first choice CB's despite both having poor seasons, he can then cover those areas. Ledley King is also likely to be in there as a CB with either Upson or Dawson - probably Upson. We all know about King's problems and we all know that Upson has had a shocking season but Capello likes him, so Carragher is always going to be safe option when called upon to back up anyone.
Joe Cole is a world class player for me, not sure if he's a world class winger, though. Anyway, he's been pretty gash since he came back from injury, so wouldn't suprise me if he didn't go, especially with the for of the likes of Johnson, Lennon and Milner. Not sure what SWP is in there for, he's hardly played under Mancini and I would have had Downing ahead of him.
Ashley Cole is easily a world class FB, probably the best LB in the world actually, so that's nonsense to say otherwise. And why is he being compared to a CB?

I'd imagine the 7 that will be dropped will be Warnock, Dawson, SWP, Parker, Barry/Huddlestone (depending on Barry's injury), Bent
I's rather he dropped Upson over Dawson. Compare their seasons, and there's only one winner.
Also, Huddlestone or Parker, I think, will go, regardless of Barry's injury. We need cover in that position.
And I'd rather he dropped Heskey instead of Bent. But you're right - that won't happen
Owens Left foot
May 11 2010, 05:14 PM
QUOTE(N`LouisNUFC @ May 11 2010, 04:03 PM)

I must be the only person in this country who quite likes seeing Carragher back in the squad. Although he's had a poor season and although I don't like the fact that he's just come out of retirement for the glamourous part of the tournament, he's still a very good player for me and better that other options in his position. He can play RB and CB and even LB, so when we're going to have a squad with Glen Johnson as our only RB and then Rio and Terry as first choice CB's despite both having poor seasons, he can then cover those areas. Ledley King is also likely to be in there as a CB with either Upson or Dawson - probably Upson. We all know about King's problems and we all know that Upson has had a shocking season but Capello likes him, so Carragher is always going to be safe option when called upon to back up anyone.
Joe Cole is a world class player for me, not sure if he's a world class winger, though. Anyway, he's been pretty gash since he came back from injury, so wouldn't suprise me if he didn't go, especially with the for of the likes of Johnson, Lennon and Milner. Not sure what SWP is in there for, he's hardly played under Mancini and I would have had Downing ahead of him.
Ashley Cole is easily a world class FB, probably the best LB in the world actually, so that's nonsense to say otherwise. And why is he being compared to a CB?

I'd imagine the 7 that will be dropped will be Warnock, Dawson, SWP, Parker, Barry/Huddlestone (depending on Barry's injury), Bent
You are
Prince albert
May 11 2010, 05:16 PM
QUOTE(Alan Shearers Throbbing Crotch @ May 11 2010, 02:06 PM)

Emile Heskey ahead of Zamora?

With the best will in the world this is a competition as to who is king shit of turd mountain, they are both absolute garbage!
Black country toon
May 11 2010, 05:23 PM
QUOTE(Alan Shearers Throbbing Crotch @ May 11 2010, 02:06 PM)

Emile Heskey ahead of Zamora?

I know, my only frustration with the squad! zamora is better at heskey in every department, and is in form at the moment, heskey has barely touched a ball for the last 2 months and has a grand total of 5 goals all season, having said that I'm glad to see ledley king, michael dawson and tom huddlestone in there.
as for carragher, I was fully behind him when he made his decision to quit england a couple of years ago, at the time he was the best england CB and should have been starting, however I don;t think that it's right that he comes back for the WC especially of the back of a poor season.
N`LouisNUFC
May 11 2010, 05:47 PM
Jonas in Argentina squad, but not Colo.
And Ronaldhino not in Brazil squad.
General Lee Speaking
May 11 2010, 10:35 PM
Zamora 'pulled out' apparantly as he is having an operation of some description.
Fucking Parker and Carragher? Feck off are they going to South Africa. What happened to Micah Richards by the way? Has he been playing?
Big Bad Titus
May 11 2010, 10:42 PM
QUOTE(General Lee Speaking @ May 11 2010, 10:35 PM)

Zamora 'pulled out' apparantly as he is having an operation of some description.
Fucking Parker and Carragher? Feck off are they going to South Africa. What happened to Micah Richards by the way? Has he been playing?
Richards would be my first choice right back, no idea why he isnt in there. More to do with the lack of anything better than him having an outstanding season.
Dont have a problem with Parker being in there, he could more than fill in for Barry in the holding role although id prefer Huddlestone myself.
Dont get me started about Carragher
As for Zamora, I cant believe there are people that actually wanted him in the squad even if fit. Even the Fulham fans were taking the piss out of how shit he was last season and the beginning of this season. Yeah hes had a good season and scored some goals but id hardly say that constitutes suddenly getting in the World Cup squad.
Others dont agree but im happy to see Heskey in there - simple fact is even though he doesnt score many goals and hasnt been playin g regularly for Villa England seem to play better with him in the team.
N`LouisNUFC
May 11 2010, 10:46 PM
QUOTE(General Lee Speaking @ May 11 2010, 09:35 PM)

Zamora 'pulled out' apparantly as he is having an operation of some description.
Fucking Parker and Carragher? Feck off are they going to South Africa. What happened to Micah Richards by the way? Has he been playing?
Capello has never picked Richards and he's hardly played under Mancini. Italian's don't really like their FB's going forward too much, so that may be why...
General Lee Speaking
May 11 2010, 10:50 PM
QUOTE(Big Bad Titus @ May 11 2010, 10:42 PM)

QUOTE(General Lee Speaking @ May 11 2010, 10:35 PM)

Zamora 'pulled out' apparantly as he is having an operation of some description.
Fucking Parker and Carragher? Feck off are they going to South Africa. What happened to Micah Richards by the way? Has he been playing?
Richards would be my first choice right back, no idea why he isnt in there. More to do with the lack of anything better than him having an outstanding season.
Dont have a problem with Parker being in there, he could more than fill in for Barry in the holding role although id prefer Huddlestone myself.
Dont get me started about Carragher
As for Zamora, I cant believe there are people that actually wanted him in the squad even if fit. Even the Fulham fans were taking the piss out of how shit he was last season and the beginning of this season. Yeah hes had a good season and scored some goals but id hardly say that constitutes suddenly getting in the World Cup squad.
Others dont agree but im happy to see Heskey in there - simple fact is even though he doesnt score many goals and hasnt been playin g regularly for Villa England seem to play better with him in the team.
Personally, I think Barry is miles better than Parker and Huddlestone and has almost always played well for England. A really good player who's play goes un-noticed much of the time. I hope he is fit for the tournament.
You're right about Zamora.......he's largely shite. I think we're lacking a bit up front with the exception of Rooney. The rest just aren't world class but maybe they can produce the goods when it matters. You need a player like Heskey and there are no better alternatives although for the next tournament it will be Carroll instead in that role.
Big Bad Titus
May 11 2010, 10:51 PM
QUOTE(N`LouisNUFC @ May 11 2010, 10:46 PM)

QUOTE(General Lee Speaking @ May 11 2010, 09:35 PM)

Zamora 'pulled out' apparantly as he is having an operation of some description.
Fucking Parker and Carragher? Feck off are they going to South Africa. What happened to Micah Richards by the way? Has he been playing?
Capello has never picked Richards and he's hardly played under Mancini. Italian's don't really like their FB's going forward too much, so that may be why...
Well Johnson spends most of his time up the field and is shite at defending yet he still seems to get a game??
General Lee Speaking
May 11 2010, 10:54 PM
QUOTE(N`LouisNUFC @ May 11 2010, 10:46 PM)

QUOTE(General Lee Speaking @ May 11 2010, 09:35 PM)

Zamora 'pulled out' apparantly as he is having an operation of some description.
Fucking Parker and Carragher? Feck off are they going to South Africa. What happened to Micah Richards by the way? Has he been playing?
Capello has never picked Richards and he's hardly played under Mancini. Italian's don't really like their FB's going forward too much, so that may be why...
From what I've seen of him for England he's been our best RB for years. Certainly he has the most raw talent in that position and he's great cover at CB too. A big loss not including him IMO, although I'll admit I've seen almost nothing of him this season so maybe he's not in good enough form?
N`LouisNUFC
May 11 2010, 10:54 PM
QUOTE(Big Bad Titus @ May 11 2010, 09:51 PM)

QUOTE(N`LouisNUFC @ May 11 2010, 10:46 PM)

QUOTE(General Lee Speaking @ May 11 2010, 09:35 PM)

Zamora 'pulled out' apparantly as he is having an operation of some description.
Fucking Parker and Carragher? Feck off are they going to South Africa. What happened to Micah Richards by the way? Has he been playing?
Capello has never picked Richards and he's hardly played under Mancini. Italian's don't really like their FB's going forward too much, so that may be why...
Well Johnson spends most of his time up the field and is shite at defending yet he still seems to get a game??
Yeah good point. Not sure then. Richards certainly hasn't progressed as well as it looked like he would a few years ago and I think he's more of a CB than RB so that may have hinderd his progress. Certainly look weak at RB.
Big Bad Titus
May 11 2010, 10:54 PM
QUOTE(General Lee Speaking @ May 11 2010, 10:50 PM)

QUOTE(Big Bad Titus @ May 11 2010, 10:42 PM)

QUOTE(General Lee Speaking @ May 11 2010, 10:35 PM)

Zamora 'pulled out' apparantly as he is having an operation of some description.
Fucking Parker and Carragher? Feck off are they going to South Africa. What happened to Micah Richards by the way? Has he been playing?
Richards would be my first choice right back, no idea why he isnt in there. More to do with the lack of anything better than him having an outstanding season.
Dont have a problem with Parker being in there, he could more than fill in for Barry in the holding role although id prefer Huddlestone myself.
Dont get me started about Carragher
As for Zamora, I cant believe there are people that actually wanted him in the squad even if fit. Even the Fulham fans were taking the piss out of how shit he was last season and the beginning of this season. Yeah hes had a good season and scored some goals but id hardly say that constitutes suddenly getting in the World Cup squad.
Others dont agree but im happy to see Heskey in there - simple fact is even though he doesnt score many goals and hasnt been playin g regularly for Villa England seem to play better with him in the team.
Personally, I think Barry is miles better than Parker and Huddlestone and has almost always played well for England. A really good player who's play goes un-noticed much of the time. I hope he is fit for the tournament.
You're right about Zamora.......he's largely shite. I think we're lacking a bit up front with the exception of Rooney. The rest just aren't world class but maybe they can produce the goods when it matters. You need a player like Heskey and there are no better alternatives although for the next tournament it will be Carroll instead in that role.

Dont get me wrong id prefer Barry to be fit but if he isnt its not a position im worried about and I think Parker or Huddlestone could do more than a decent job there although im guessing it would be Carrick.
Agree on the strikers there just isnt a wealth of proven international talent to choose from other than Rooney. I can see why people give Heskey stick but like you say you sometimes need players like that who do a massive job for the team but dont necessarily grab the headlines.
Big Bad Titus
May 11 2010, 10:59 PM
QUOTE(N`LouisNUFC @ May 11 2010, 10:54 PM)

QUOTE(Big Bad Titus @ May 11 2010, 09:51 PM)

QUOTE(N`LouisNUFC @ May 11 2010, 10:46 PM)

QUOTE(General Lee Speaking @ May 11 2010, 09:35 PM)

Zamora 'pulled out' apparantly as he is having an operation of some description.
Fucking Parker and Carragher? Feck off are they going to South Africa. What happened to Micah Richards by the way? Has he been playing?
Capello has never picked Richards and he's hardly played under Mancini. Italian's don't really like their FB's going forward too much, so that may be why...
Well Johnson spends most of his time up the field and is shite at defending yet he still seems to get a game??
Yeah good point. Not sure then. Richards certainly hasn't progressed as well as it looked like he would a few years ago and I think he's more of a CB than RB so that may have hinderd his progress. Certainly look weak at RB.
Yeah the lack of decent right backs is pretty worrying.
I can see why Richards isnt in there and i dont think hes been great this season, just think he could do a better job than Johnson or any of the alternatives for that matter.
Hes more solid defensively and even though he is more a centre back there are sometimes advantages to having an extra natural centre half in the team.
You may lose a bit attacking wise but you are more solid defensively and its always nice to have another big guy on the pitch for set pieces at both ends. Also considering its probably gonna be someone like Lennon in front of him then I think the last thing you need behind is a suspect defender like Johnson who often gets caught out of position.
ASME-GIBBO1
May 12 2010, 04:49 AM
Someone direct me to a better Spanish left-back than Jose atm.. close minded fukin Spaniards!
Whitley Mag
May 12 2010, 08:04 AM
The Frogs
No Benzema, Nasri or Viera
Goalkeepers: Hugo Lloris (Olympique Lyon), Steve Mandanda(Olympique Marseille), Cedric Carrasso (Girondins Bordeaux), Mickael Landreau (Lille)
Defenders: Bacary Sagna (Arsenal), Patrice Evra (Manchester United), William Gallas (Arsenal), Eric Abidal (Barcelona), Rod Fanni (Stade Rennes), Sebastien Squillaci (Sevilla), Adil Rami (Lille), Marc Planus (Girondins Bordeaux), Gael Clichy(Arsenal), Anthony Reveillere (Olympique Lyon)
Midfielders: Lassana Diarra (Real Madrid), Alou Diarra(Girondins Bordeaux), Jeremy Toulalan (Olympique Lyon), Florent Malouda (Chelsea), Yoann Gourcuff (Girondins Bordeaux), Abou Diaby (Arsenal), Yann M'Vila (Stade Rennes)
Forwards: Thierry Henry (Barcelona), Nicolas Anelka (Chelsea), Andre-Pierre Gignac (Toulouse), Franck Ribery (Bayern Munich), Sidney Govou (Olympique Lyon), Djibril Cisse (Panathinaikos), Hatem Ben Arfa (Olympique Marseille), Mathieu Valbuena (Olympique Marseille), Jimmy Briand (Stade Rennes)
Big Bad Titus
May 12 2010, 09:50 AM
QUOTE(N`LouisNUFC @ May 11 2010, 05:47 PM)

Jonas in Argentina squad, but not Colo.
And Ronaldhino not in Brazil squad.
I just read an article on nufc.co.uk saying that Colo is in the initial 30
N`LouisNUFC
May 12 2010, 09:54 AM
QUOTE(Big Bad Titus @ May 12 2010, 08:50 AM)

QUOTE(N`LouisNUFC @ May 11 2010, 05:47 PM)

Jonas in Argentina squad, but not Colo.
And Ronaldhino not in Brazil squad.
I just read an article on nufc.co.uk saying that Colo is in the initial 30
Yeah, just seen that. Yesterday .com said only Jonas had got in

Glad to see Colo's got in, hopefully he makes the 23. Cambiasso not in it though, nor is Zanetti, despite both being class in Inter's season where they could win the treble.
Big Bad Titus
May 12 2010, 10:41 AM
QUOTE(N`LouisNUFC @ May 12 2010, 09:54 AM)

QUOTE(Big Bad Titus @ May 12 2010, 08:50 AM)

QUOTE(N`LouisNUFC @ May 11 2010, 05:47 PM)

Jonas in Argentina squad, but not Colo.
And Ronaldhino not in Brazil squad.
I just read an article on nufc.co.uk saying that Colo is in the initial 30
Yeah, just seen that. Yesterday .com said only Jonas had got in

Glad to see Colo's got in, hopefully he makes the 23. Cambiasso not in it though, nor is Zanetti, despite both being class in Inter's season where they could win the treble.
Yeah really hope Colo makes the 23 too - god knows whether he will as I dont think anyone knows what decision Maradonna will make next
Its pretty depressing as an England fan like seeing the likes of Milito, Zanetti, Cambiasso, Van Nistelrooy, Benzema, Ronaldinho, Nasri, Vieira, Adriano not getting in their respective squads when the only English guy thats been left out of our squad who people thought had a chance is Bobby fucking Zamora
Black country toon
May 12 2010, 11:22 AM
Brazil haven't picked, pato, ronaldinho, or diego, I reckon brazil might be beatable, dunga seems to love his defensive players which means they lose out on alot of their attacking flair which in my opinion is their greatest strenght.
N`LouisNUFC
May 12 2010, 03:01 PM
Terry may be out of the WC with metatarsal injury - awaiting results from a scan...
Big Bad Titus
May 12 2010, 03:53 PM
QUOTE(N`LouisNUFC @ May 12 2010, 03:01 PM)

Terry may be out of the WC with metatarsal injury - awaiting results from a scan...
Absolutely massive blow if hes out
toondonny
May 12 2010, 03:58 PM
QUOTE(Big Bad Titus @ May 12 2010, 02:53 PM)

QUOTE(N`LouisNUFC @ May 12 2010, 03:01 PM)

Terry may be out of the WC with metatarsal injury - awaiting results from a scan...
Absolutely massive blow if hes out

Have no fear BBT Carragher is back
68 dead
May 12 2010, 03:59 PM
QUOTE(toondonny @ May 12 2010, 03:58 PM)

QUOTE(Big Bad Titus @ May 12 2010, 02:53 PM)

QUOTE(N`LouisNUFC @ May 12 2010, 03:01 PM)

Terry may be out of the WC with metatarsal injury - awaiting results from a scan...
Absolutely massive blow if hes out

Have no fear BBT Carragher is back

does this mean wayne bridge is back in contention?
Big Bad Titus
May 12 2010, 04:50 PM
QUOTE(toondonny @ May 12 2010, 03:58 PM)

QUOTE(Big Bad Titus @ May 12 2010, 02:53 PM)

QUOTE(N`LouisNUFC @ May 12 2010, 03:01 PM)

Terry may be out of the WC with metatarsal injury - awaiting results from a scan...
Absolutely massive blow if hes out

Have no fear BBT Carragher is back

Robert_32
May 12 2010, 06:03 PM
QUOTE(N`LouisNUFC @ May 12 2010, 10:54 AM)

QUOTE(Big Bad Titus @ May 12 2010, 08:50 AM)

QUOTE(N`LouisNUFC @ May 11 2010, 05:47 PM)

Jonas in Argentina squad, but not Colo.
And Ronaldhino not in Brazil squad.
I just read an article on nufc.co.uk saying that Colo is in the initial 30
Yeah, just seen that. Yesterday .com said only Jonas had got in

Glad to see Colo's got in, hopefully he makes the 23. Cambiasso not in it though, nor is Zanetti, despite both being class in Inter's season where they could win the treble.
No Lucho either
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