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Zoolander
fucking twat
Whitley Mag
Hope the linesman catches an unfortunate bout of African AIDs.
Big Bad Titus
It was a fucking awful decision and you never know what would have happened had it counted but on that display im guessing we would have still gone out anyway.

I say this every time there is a decision like this and im still yet to hear a good answer - in a world where we put men on the moon, have ipods, mobile phones, computers that do just about anything how fucking hard is it to have a microchip in a football that can tell the ref immediately if it crosses the goalline??

No need for video replays or anything like that if Fifa dont want to go down that route, just some simple technology which is in operation already to help stop shoplifters throughout the world.
NUFC_GRB
Look at the ICC they probably make a quarter of what FIFA make yet they have hotspot, Hawkeye, ultra slow motion and snickometer. yet the richest sport wont splash out on tech to help the game
magtillidie
QUOTE(NUFC4EVER @ Jun 27 2010, 10:29 PM) *

Look at the ICC they probably make a quarter of what FIFA make yet they have hotspot, Hawkeye, ultra slow motion and snickometer. yet the richest sport wont splash out on tech to help the game


I'm a bit split, I'd hate football to go down the line of going to video replays but I believe the technology exists that should tell the referee if the ball has crossed the goalline which should be the only instance technology is used for. I hate it when people compare it to tennis or cricket which are sports that always stop so it is appropriate in them sports to consult technology but in my opinion it should not be used except for deciding whether the ball has crossed the line in football.
Nufc Navan
Goal line technology or video evidence will never be enforced under the tenure of Blatter.

The reason is because it allowes the margin between the 'bigger teams' and 'smaller teams' to narrow. This applies to both the World Cup and the Champions League. He right well knows that the referee will give a dodgy decision in favour of the likes of Argentina, France, Barcelona etc.

While these calibre of teams remain relatively unchallenged, it means more money for FIFA. Goal line technology or video evidence may threaten that, and that is why it will not be enforced in the near future.
N`LouisNUFC
QUOTE(magtillidie @ Jun 27 2010, 09:42 PM) *
QUOTE(NUFC4EVER @ Jun 27 2010, 10:29 PM) *

Look at the ICC they probably make a quarter of what FIFA make yet they have hotspot, Hawkeye, ultra slow motion and snickometer. yet the richest sport wont splash out on tech to help the game


I'm a bit split, I'd hate football to go down the line of going to video replays but I believe the technology exists that should tell the referee if the ball has crossed the goalline which should be the only instance technology is used for. I hate it when people compare it to tennis or cricket which are sports that always stop so it is appropriate in them sports to consult technology but in my opinion it should not be used except for deciding whether the ball has crossed the line in football.
Agree with that. Although as BBT said, it surely can't be hard to put some sort of sensor chip into a ball to tell if it has crossed the line. Clarence Seedorf was saying something along the lines of how he has seen that work in other countries at some lower levels - couldn't really hear him, but it was something like that.
NUFC_GRB
Fifa is corrupt i mean how can a man whos only reply to hao can we improve womens football was they should wear shorter shorts and tight shirts
TwinPuck
QUOTE(Big Bad Titus @ Jun 27 2010, 08:54 PM) *

It was a fucking awful decision and you never know what would have happened had it counted but on that display im guessing we would have still gone out anyway.

I say this every time there is a decision like this and im still yet to hear a good answer - in a world where we put men on the moon, have ipods, mobile phones, computers that do just about anything how fucking hard is it to have a microchip in a football that can tell the ref immediately if it crosses the goalline??

No need for video replays or anything like that if Fifa dont want to go down that route, just some simple technology which is in operation already to help stop shoplifters throughout the world.

Some bloke from the scottish fa was on Radio 5 today and said that they (Fifa) had a demo of two systems about 6 months ago and Adidas had a chip system and it worked perfectly, its not a technology issue but a blatter one and he won't have it.
Big Bad Titus
QUOTE(TwinPuck @ Jun 28 2010, 09:51 PM) *

QUOTE(Big Bad Titus @ Jun 27 2010, 08:54 PM) *

It was a fucking awful decision and you never know what would have happened had it counted but on that display im guessing we would have still gone out anyway.

I say this every time there is a decision like this and im still yet to hear a good answer - in a world where we put men on the moon, have ipods, mobile phones, computers that do just about anything how fucking hard is it to have a microchip in a football that can tell the ref immediately if it crosses the goalline??

No need for video replays or anything like that if Fifa dont want to go down that route, just some simple technology which is in operation already to help stop shoplifters throughout the world.

Some bloke from the scottish fa was on Radio 5 today and said that they (Fifa) had a demo of two systems about 6 months ago and Adidas had a chip system and it worked perfectly, its not a technology issue but a blatter one and he won't have it.


Well thats certainly believable, Blatter really is just a fucking wanker mad.gif
Dembas Strawberry Syrup
QUOTE(Big Bad Titus @ Jun 28 2010, 10:09 PM) *

QUOTE(TwinPuck @ Jun 28 2010, 09:51 PM) *

QUOTE(Big Bad Titus @ Jun 27 2010, 08:54 PM) *

It was a fucking awful decision and you never know what would have happened had it counted but on that display im guessing we would have still gone out anyway.

I say this every time there is a decision like this and im still yet to hear a good answer - in a world where we put men on the moon, have ipods, mobile phones, computers that do just about anything how fucking hard is it to have a microchip in a football that can tell the ref immediately if it crosses the goalline??

No need for video replays or anything like that if Fifa dont want to go down that route, just some simple technology which is in operation already to help stop shoplifters throughout the world.

Some bloke from the scottish fa was on Radio 5 today and said that they (Fifa) had a demo of two systems about 6 months ago and Adidas had a chip system and it worked perfectly, its not a technology issue but a blatter one and he won't have it.


Well thats certainly believable, Blatter really is just a fucking wanker mad.gif

What makes it more insane is that UEFA have been trialling goalline officials during the Europa League for a whole YEAR. That would be an acceptable compromise yet that tub of lard still does not want to know. mad.gif

Lawro said in the commentary "Thans Sepp, I hope you're squirming in your seat now", on the contrary, Blatter would more likely have been pissing himself laughing.
Big Bad Titus
QUOTE(Yellow Dazzla @ Jun 28 2010, 10:15 PM) *

QUOTE(Big Bad Titus @ Jun 28 2010, 10:09 PM) *

QUOTE(TwinPuck @ Jun 28 2010, 09:51 PM) *

QUOTE(Big Bad Titus @ Jun 27 2010, 08:54 PM) *

It was a fucking awful decision and you never know what would have happened had it counted but on that display im guessing we would have still gone out anyway.

I say this every time there is a decision like this and im still yet to hear a good answer - in a world where we put men on the moon, have ipods, mobile phones, computers that do just about anything how fucking hard is it to have a microchip in a football that can tell the ref immediately if it crosses the goalline??

No need for video replays or anything like that if Fifa dont want to go down that route, just some simple technology which is in operation already to help stop shoplifters throughout the world.

Some bloke from the scottish fa was on Radio 5 today and said that they (Fifa) had a demo of two systems about 6 months ago and Adidas had a chip system and it worked perfectly, its not a technology issue but a blatter one and he won't have it.


Well thats certainly believable, Blatter really is just a fucking wanker mad.gif

What makes it more insane is that UEFA have been trialling goalline officials during the Europa League for a whole YEAR. That would be an acceptable compromise yet that tub of lard still does not want to know. mad.gif

Lawro said in the commentary "Thans Sepp, I hope you're squirming in your seat now", on the contrary, Blatter would more likely have been pissing himself laughing.


Im guessing that rather than just being a total wanker his thinking is probably that if he lets any technology in then there will be calls for more to follow etc and eventually video replays etc will come in.

Have to say I dont really want it to go that far but I think goal line technology is a must.
General Lee Speaking
QUOTE(Big Bad Titus @ Jun 28 2010, 10:34 PM) *


Im guessing that rather than just being a total wanker his thinking is probably that if he lets any technology in then there will be calls for more to follow etc and eventually video replays etc will come in.

Have to say I dont really want it to go that far but I think goal line technology is a must.


Quite. Anything that doesn't cause play to stop in free flow should be bought in in any league that has the resources to implement it across every game and certainly in major international tournaments. Goal line technology with chips in the ball and the like could send a message to the ref the instnt that the ball had crossed the line. Video refs should only ever be considered when there is a natural stop in the play, e.g. when a goal has been scored and they can check the offsides, handballs (Henry, for example), and that kind of thing and disallow it if that's the correct call. You should never have play continuing for 2 or 3 minutes until the ball goes out for a throw-in and then they go back to an incident where someone might have been brought down in the box and then give a penalty. Nobody in the crowd would know what was going on and the game would just become a farce. There would still be controversy but it would eliminate some bad calls.

Linekar suggested 3 appeals like in tennis but that would be a shite idea for me due to play being stopped in mid-flow. Opposing team about to score and the other team wants to appeal!?
Big Bad Titus
QUOTE(General Lee Speaking @ Jun 28 2010, 10:49 PM) *

QUOTE(Big Bad Titus @ Jun 28 2010, 10:34 PM) *


Im guessing that rather than just being a total wanker his thinking is probably that if he lets any technology in then there will be calls for more to follow etc and eventually video replays etc will come in.

Have to say I dont really want it to go that far but I think goal line technology is a must.


Quite. Anything that doesn't cause play to stop in free flow should be bought in in any league that has the resources to implement it across every game and certainly in major international tournaments. Goal line technology with chips in the ball and the like could send a message to the ref the instnt that the ball had crossed the line. Video refs should only ever be considered when there is a natural stop in the play, e.g. when a goal has been scored and they can check the offsides, handballs (Henry, for example), and that kind of thing and disallow it if that's the correct call. You should never have play continuing for 2 or 3 minutes until the ball goes out for a throw-in and then they go back to an incident where someone might have been brought down in the box and then give a penalty. Nobody in the crowd would know what was going on and the game would just become a farce. There would still be controversy but it would eliminate some bad calls.

Linekar suggested 3 appeals like in tennis but that would be a shite idea for me due to play being stopped in mid-flow. Opposing team about to score and the other team wants to appeal!?


To be honest simply goal line technology would be enough for me for the time being, im not a big advocate of bringing in replays for offsides, handballs etc.

The thing with the goal line issues is that with a chip in the ball you could quickly get a definitive answer one way or the other. With things like offsides etc even with a replay its still down to some interpretation from the video ref or whoever.
General Lee Speaking
QUOTE(Big Bad Titus @ Jun 28 2010, 11:00 PM) *


To be honest simply goal line technology would be enough for me for the time being, im not a big advocate of bringing in replays for offsides, handballs etc.

The thing with the goal line issues is that with a chip in the ball you could quickly get a definitive answer one way or the other. With things like offsides etc even with a replay its still down to some interpretation from the video ref or whoever.


I might not have made that clear, only judge if a goal was a goal with the video. There's normally 60 seconds or so between a goal and the kick off so just make sure it was a goal and not some sort of Thierry Henry cheating incident. Nav's with me on this one!
Nufc Navan
QUOTE(General Lee Speaking @ Jun 28 2010, 11:09 PM) *

QUOTE(Big Bad Titus @ Jun 28 2010, 11:00 PM) *


To be honest simply goal line technology would be enough for me for the time being, im not a big advocate of bringing in replays for offsides, handballs etc.

The thing with the goal line issues is that with a chip in the ball you could quickly get a definitive answer one way or the other. With things like offsides etc even with a replay its still down to some interpretation from the video ref or whoever.


I might not have made that clear, only judge if a goal was a goal with the video. There's normally 60 seconds or so between a goal and the kick off so just make sure it was a goal and not some sort of Thierry Henry cheating incident. Nav's with me on this one!

Exactly. What could stop a ref saying "Hold on, might have been a handball etc. in the leadup to the goal."
Some like it Hottiger
QUOTE(Nufc Navan @ Jun 29 2010, 02:58 AM) *

QUOTE(General Lee Speaking @ Jun 28 2010, 11:09 PM) *

QUOTE(Big Bad Titus @ Jun 28 2010, 11:00 PM) *


To be honest simply goal line technology would be enough for me for the time being, im not a big advocate of bringing in replays for offsides, handballs etc.

The thing with the goal line issues is that with a chip in the ball you could quickly get a definitive answer one way or the other. With things like offsides etc even with a replay its still down to some interpretation from the video ref or whoever.


I might not have made that clear, only judge if a goal was a goal with the video. There's normally 60 seconds or so between a goal and the kick off so just make sure it was a goal and not some sort of Thierry Henry cheating incident. Nav's with me on this one!

Exactly. What could stop a ref saying "Hold on, might have been a handball etc. in the leadup to the goal."
To cut down on teams appealing for everything, you could say that each team gets say two appeals per match. If you get it wrong then you lose the appeal, similarly to cricket/tennis.

One possibly problem with that is that when that was introduced in cricket, it still didn't cut down on the controversy - and teams really did start putting in speculative appeals towards the end of the match. But at least you would have fewer ridiculous decisions such as in the two matches on Sunday.
Dorty Mag
QUOTE(Some like it Hottiger @ Jun 29 2010, 09:18 AM) *

QUOTE(Nufc Navan @ Jun 29 2010, 02:58 AM) *

QUOTE(General Lee Speaking @ Jun 28 2010, 11:09 PM) *

QUOTE(Big Bad Titus @ Jun 28 2010, 11:00 PM) *


To be honest simply goal line technology would be enough for me for the time being, im not a big advocate of bringing in replays for offsides, handballs etc.

The thing with the goal line issues is that with a chip in the ball you could quickly get a definitive answer one way or the other. With things like offsides etc even with a replay its still down to some interpretation from the video ref or whoever.


I might not have made that clear, only judge if a goal was a goal with the video. There's normally 60 seconds or so between a goal and the kick off so just make sure it was a goal and not some sort of Thierry Henry cheating incident. Nav's with me on this one!

Exactly. What could stop a ref saying "Hold on, might have been a handball etc. in the leadup to the goal."
To cut down on teams appealing for everything, you could say that each team gets say two appeals per match. If you get it wrong then you lose the appeal, similarly to cricket/tennis.

One possibly problem with that is that when that was introduced in cricket, it still didn't cut down on the controversy - and teams really did start putting in speculative appeals towards the end of the match. But at least you would have fewer ridiculous decisions such as in the two matches on Sunday.



Talk Shite radio reporting this morning that FIFA President Sepp Blatter has signalled a possible U-turn by declaring that goal line technology will be discussed at a meeting planned for next month.

Is Blatter simply staving off mounting criticism or is this an important development?
Some like it Hottiger
QUOTE(Dorty Mag @ Jun 29 2010, 10:36 AM) *

QUOTE(Some like it Hottiger @ Jun 29 2010, 09:18 AM) *

QUOTE(Nufc Navan @ Jun 29 2010, 02:58 AM) *

QUOTE(General Lee Speaking @ Jun 28 2010, 11:09 PM) *

QUOTE(Big Bad Titus @ Jun 28 2010, 11:00 PM) *


To be honest simply goal line technology would be enough for me for the time being, im not a big advocate of bringing in replays for offsides, handballs etc.

The thing with the goal line issues is that with a chip in the ball you could quickly get a definitive answer one way or the other. With things like offsides etc even with a replay its still down to some interpretation from the video ref or whoever.


I might not have made that clear, only judge if a goal was a goal with the video. There's normally 60 seconds or so between a goal and the kick off so just make sure it was a goal and not some sort of Thierry Henry cheating incident. Nav's with me on this one!

Exactly. What could stop a ref saying "Hold on, might have been a handball etc. in the leadup to the goal."
To cut down on teams appealing for everything, you could say that each team gets say two appeals per match. If you get it wrong then you lose the appeal, similarly to cricket/tennis.

One possibly problem with that is that when that was introduced in cricket, it still didn't cut down on the controversy - and teams really did start putting in speculative appeals towards the end of the match. But at least you would have fewer ridiculous decisions such as in the two matches on Sunday.



Talk Shite radio reporting this morning that FIFA President Sepp Blatter has signalled a possible U-turn by declaring that goal line techology will be discussed at a meeting planned for next month.

Is Blatter simply staving off mounting criticism or is this an important development?
He's staving off mounting criticism. By the time they meet, these two incidents will have been largely forgotten.
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