So then if Fab goes, who would you want in the England hot seat?

With so much talk about "English" managers again, i've included in the list above all the English managers in the Premier League, a certain "wally" successfully working abroad and the U21 manager although, if you want a foreigner again, feel free to suggest one

Other - Fabio Capello

I'm not sure if Capello will still be England manager in two weeks time. Like all things Italian, he seems to have had a lousy World Cup 2010. We can say this and say that but at the end of the day, it is a results business and he may well be facing the boot. If so, Roy Hodgson would be an excellent choice as manager....he has tons of experience, knows the English game and the international game and would surely be tempted to take charge should the opportunity arise.

Which is probably why he's delaying these talks with Liverpool until he knows for sure.

So I agree, he would be an excellent choice, Redknapp would be a good one too though.

He's not even English!

Actually, he is (born in London), even though he played for Ireland

Just dont really see the point in changing manager again when the issues clearly lie with the players.

Capello is pretty much as good as it gets in terms of his CV so just dont see how anyone else will do any better with what they are dealt.

Think Hodgson has done a very good job at Fulham but not sure 1 decent season constitutes the top job and not sure about the clamour for Redknapp - would he really be able to do anything if he cant just go out and spend £50 million on some new players??

Its an attitude change we need rather than a manager change for me.

Sounds like your typical "Irish" international footballer then Dorts

He's part of the 'foreign' option that Yellow listed. You can't keep the C-Unit out on a technicality - he IS the technicality.

BBT
Just a shame Emil didn't have an Irish great-great-great-great-great-great grandfather (who once drank a pint of Guiness)

Steve Staunton.

Heaven forbid

And yes I know you were taking the p

Id rather have Domenech!!

Get 'Big Jack' in.

But they don't just lie with the players. I think it's pretty clear our dreadful tournament is due to a combination of both the manager and players.

I've already said that we shouldn't persist with a manager for the sake of his club record when we are constantly criticising his decisions. And his English seems dreadful to me, which I feel is part of the problem.

The new manager doesn't have to be English but I wouldn't be fussed with either Hodgson or Redknapp. Both very good club managers who seem to have a much better grasp of logic than Capello in my view.

Well will have to agree to disagree on that one mate, i think the issue is with the players and i dont think Capello's English is a problem whatseover - i think thats just another convenient excuse. Its funny how the language only becomes an issue when we are losing, nobody mentioned it in the qualifiers did they?

Im not saying Capello hasnt maybe made mistakes but i just think the players and their attitudes have made the job almost impossible, i honestly cant really see anyone else doing any better with what they have to work with.

I promise you, people will criticise Redknapp or Hodgson's decisions should they take over from Capello. So who do you want? You mention good club managers - I'd say Capello wins that one, although 'Arry did get 'Spuss in to the Champions League.

Ok that is true, but Capello has persisted in ridiculous decisions that just aren't working with our players. I know Capello and Allardyce have achieved different things as managers, but isn't that the reason many of us wanted Allardyce sacked? He didn't do too badly at Bolton after all.

Not sure Allardyce ever had us playing well, but Capello has had England playing well. To be honest, I'm not sure there's going to be that much gained by changing the manager as I think it will take a lot of factors to come together perfectly for England to do well in a major tournament which is actually what I thought we would need before the tournament started so it's no surprise we flopped. I stayed optimistic but always said it would take our best players to hit form, stay injury free and them to have some luck to do well. None of that happened.

And the understatement of the year award goes to............

Understatement no doubt, but I'd say it's still a fair argument as Newcastle and England are on slightly different levels...

Gazza.

After the Algeria game, at least 5 of the players should have been dropped.

Rooney, by Capello's admission, was knackered from the start. Milner had a major fitness/illness problem in the first game. Lampard and Gerrard (for whatever reason) do not play well in the same team. Ling should never have been in the squad. We had few options on the left but surely J Cole should have been the first choice. If 4-4-2 isn't working, then the manager should change it. Heskey has barely been picked by his club and certainly was not a player in form. Carragher should never have been asked to come out of retirement. Adam Johnson should have been in the squad ahead of SWP or Lennon. Why didn't Crouch get so much as a kick - he can and does score goals!

Cappello fell for the same old mistake - picking players on past reputation rather than picking a blend of youth and experience which could play together.

Of course, the problems run far deeper. The style of football played in England is faster and more physical than most other countries. Some players play far too many games, the Premier League should be reduced to 18 teams, Champions League clubs should not be expected to play their first team in the League Cup (if at all), there should be a cap on foreign players and of course there should be a winter break. The England players need more time together....... but none of this will happen because the PL clubs will not allow it.

At the end of the day, most football fans are more concerned about their club team than England (myself included) and we join in the clamour when our players get injured in "pointless friendlies". The players, the fans, the managers and the clubs all put club before country.

This is the attitude that runs throughout English football and this is why nothing will ever change.

I don't really see how people can defend Capello, he made so many mistakes and not just during the WC.

When he came in he said he would pick players in form and wouldn't pick players who were not playing regularly - both of which he didn't do. I think a lot of people seem to brush aside so many poor performances during the qualifying because of the Croatia result. I always thought the people went over the top about him and how good he was doing. He basically did as good as Sven really, as we beat the 'lesser' teams, but lost/drew to most of the better teams. We had freindlies against the likes of Spain, France, Brazil, Holland, etc and failed to win and lost most of them. His record only shows that he is slightly more ruthless against the 'lesser' teams than Sven was, but still can't get the better of the bigger nations.

Players do obviously have to take some blame, but the manager should have recognised after the USA game, and then the Algeria game that players were not performing, and therefore dropped them. He failed to do that. Kept under-performing players in the team - who failed to perform in the next game. His subs were bloody awful in every game. That was epitomised by bringing Heskey on for Defoe when we needed goals.

He should go. No idea who should come in, looks like Hodgson is off to Liverpool, so that one isn't a goer.

I'd be tempted to go for rookie as a few other top countries have tried, somebody along the lines of Beckham or Shearer, I know it seems mad but I just think we need to try something different. If it has to be somebody experienced then I think Hodgson is the only man for the job, he's done a good job without having the best team so doesn't need millions to get a team performing (Redknapp), he also comes with experience from across Europe and has managed at international level in the past.

I haven't really thought this through, but perhaps it would help to have a national footballing legend who is mates with the players etc. It seems to be working with Maradona - whatever people say about his tactics, the players seem to love him and I think that must motivate them and help for team cohesion.

Why would a rookie manager help?

The problems with the England team aren't going to go away with a quick fix. No matter who comes in, they are still going to face the situation of under-investment in youth development, a shortage of English players playing in the premier league and a total absence of English players with experience of other leagues. It's those problems that need to be faced, not the personality of the man in charge of the team.

Didn't the Italians win it last time with a squad of home-based players?

Agreed Louis, I can't see how people can defend him either, other than by pointing to his previous managerial record and the attitudes of the players. Doesn't take away from the constant mistakes he has made.

No doubt both Croatia results were fantastic, but I'm not convinced by our qualifiers performances otherwise. We had an easy group with the likes of Kazakhstan and Andorra, and the only other team posing a threat was Ukraine. They aren't a particularly strong team but they beat us in Ukraine and we left it very late to beat them in England.

I guess it's not completely fair for me to compare Capello to Sven (as the latter was here much longer), but he at least got us to quarter-finals in each major tournament, and in none of the tournaments did we crash out in humiliating fashion as we did against Germany. He also got off to a great start and was very popular at first - he was manager when we beat Germany 5-1 after all...

Situations vacant
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Manager Of England
- bring your own cross
- nails, crown of thorns will be provided

Situations vacant? How about left winger, attacking midfielder, goalscorer, leader, defender, goalkeeper....

All you need in international management is passion and patriotism. maradonna is working for argentina despite some shocking tactical decisions and jurgen klinsman did well for germany in 2006 without any managerial experience, also a foreign manager has never won the world cup.

I'm not saying it definitly will or that we should definitly go down that route, but we need change and it's a different option to the "norm" which seems to get us nowhere. Klinsmann & Van Basten were given a try with no experience and this world cup we have Maradona & Dunga who seem to be doing well with no past managerial jobs(albeit with quality teams!).