Symmn posted this in the transfer thread and for me it is pretty much spot on.

Anyway, how long do you think the fans will give both Ashley, the players and Hughton? Whilst i lose my temper at the club quite easily on here, it will take a hell of a poor run to get be on the back of the team or the manager at the match, its obviously rarely productive (in fact i can only think of Eboue who has had any benefit from the his own fans being on his back).

Its almost certain isn't it that Ashley will be the first to be singled out again, personally whilst a lot of fans, including people on here, seem to have a short memory, i'll never forgive or forget what happened with Keegan, then bringing in Joe Kinnear and ultimately getting us relegated.

After that, i can see the crowd looking for a scapegoat on the pitch, i think it might be either Nolan, Perch, Harper or Collocini who becomes the bandwagon hate figure.

I'm going to predict that Hughton will probably start getting stick by the end of October if we are in the bottom 3 and that by xmas he will be sacked, earlier if Sunderland beat us at SJP, just in time for Mike Ashley to conveniently be sick of it all again and put the club up for sale in the transfer window so he doesn't have put any money into the club.

I can see us picking up 10 points by the time Sunderland arrive on Tyneside (31st Oct), which will probably mean we will be right in amongst a relegation battle, as will the mackems, so this will be a 6 pointer.

FFS, what is a predition?

All terribly feasible

Wasn't it so that Joe Kinnear wasn't doing so badly - I doubt if you'd have gone down if he hadn't have had his heart attack.
It was actually Big Al that took you down.
It's funny - here's a thread admitting that you're going to be relegation fodder and elsewhere there's another thread decrying the 'experts' for coming to the same conclusion.

Bottom 3 or 4 at Xmas will see the end of Hughton, even though he cannot be blamed for the lack of transfer activity. Seems to me to be a fair assumption, from the words of L'OM's prez, that it's the money men who are fucking around and Hughton, to be fair, seems to have done very well to spot that Ben Arfa is both available and, seemingly, interested. The powers that be seem to be doing all they can to make a complete fucking mess of it. However, sacking Hughton will be pointless - there's no-one better than him going to work for Ashley. Still, 3 pts and new players by Sunday and it could all look different.

Personally, I think Ashley's steaming that some Indian billionaire didn't "like" Newcastle United rather than Rovers.

He doesn't just 'like' Rovers - he's completely passionate about them!
In fact it was the dream of eventually owning them and developing the club to be on the same level as Man U and Real Madrid that was the motivating factor in building his business empire in first place.

I think Hughton will not be barracked (except by the few mindless fecks) no matter what happens. The issue I have with Ashley is that there is no communication about future plans, hence all the guess work leaving everyone frustrated - I'm not expecting him to disclose how much there is or anything like that but by being honest with the current state of financial affairs he would stave off any criticism. I don't think the club will be put up for sale until we are safe from relegation (if that happens). I think the scapegoat will be Nolan - he will be found wanting in a 442 formation as a central midfielder and I think he will not get as many goals as he did last season (I would say at most 10) thus rendering the away tactic of 4411 (451 however way you want to look at it) pointless.

My hopes are that Colo and Perch are not vilified (when they make a mistake) as this will be detrimental to them and the team. I don't think Harps will come under criticism (if he does bad this season then from nexst season its Krul and Forster and a thanks for being loyal Steve but you are no longer needed except for coaching).

As for how many points we will get between now and October 31st - who knows?! As this is not just dependent on us, but how other teams perform and its too early to judge as, for example, Wigan will most definately bounce back with some good performances. There are definately 6 teams in the mire this season including us and lets hope we finish top of that mini league.

Lets just hope Hughton has some transfer targets (dont care if they are old, young, free or on loan) as we desperately need players in certain positions, namely in creativity (no point in a big target man if no balls for him to head).

The road will be long, winding and tough but we will finish 17th or above!

The team isnt good enough. Simple as that. We will struggle to score goals and our slow uncreative midfield will not create them. Ill give it 30 mins on sunday before the wankers start getting the team's back. If we stay up ill be very surprised.

I thought Ashley made that one clear in a statement at the beginning of the summer.

All this after one game against one of the best teams in the world!
The week before they'd made Chelsea look ordinary, so what did you think they were going to do to Toon?
It's true the team aren't good enough to handle ManU, but neither are most teams.
But surely they're good enough to handle Wigan, West Brom, Bolton, Blackburn etc.

Copy Nooker is right.

The sheer amount of negativity after losing 3-0 to Man Utd is astonishing.

The negativity has nothing to do with Man Utd, there are very few who expected anything less than a drubbing, it has to do with our squad and our team are weak in virtually every area and it is looking very likely that it will remain that way.

He's still a whinging diving kent imo......

Although he is playin g slightly better these days.

Nowt to do with getting stuffed off Man U. That was expected. Was just saying we are in a for long hard season.

We already knew that. But the doom-and-gloom does seem to be louder now than it was a week ago.

And it will be louder still up to the 31st August, unless we can pick up the players we so desperately need. And bear in mind that no-one is clamouring for glamour, or multi-million pound buys - we are realistic enough to know that survival is the aim. We are also realistic in that we know this current squad is arguably not good enough to survive. We have a fighting chance, at best, but surely the management team - above Hughton - can see that we're short in areas that need addressing and we aren't going to stand alone against the corporate, agent-driven footballing World and change it overnight.

Why is everyone so surpriseed we aren't spending money when Ahsley statement more or less said that he wasn't intending to. Ok at the time we were a little confused over his choice of wording and what it meant exactly but I think the last 3 months have confirmed it meant what it said on the tin.

Let's just hope in the next week when a few squads are deciding on their 25 players that there is some decent players left that they will need to let go out on loan, should be a few from Man City that would be an improvement on our bunch.

I dont think people are suprised at the lack of no money being spent - what is suprising is the money we have spent is on a player of no better quality than we have and in a position that we have a few players that could play there. Clearly there wont be any free signings as they would have already been concluded by this stage. So we are left with loan signings and its getting frustrating watching other clubs getting players on loan that would improve our team and squad.

And as for the comment about Ashley making his intentions clear a couple of months ago, then the under 25 only policy has already failed?! I'm not a fan of having Sol as I think them wages could have been used a lot more wisely, but he's here now and I'll be cheering him on when he steps on the field. I think Ashley's plan is like the last time we were in Premiership, survive on the bare minimum and sell sell sell the club. All the comments made by Ashely have been mainly all lies thus far so why should we believe those comments.

Yet we've spent £2m on Perch

I personally think will get 2, maybe 3 more in, probably loans, maybe a free transfer. That should give us enough to compete this year. We'll scrape around the bottom half all season and hopefully survive just about.

I really hope we didn't spend as much as £2m on Perch. I did assume that R.Taylor would be on his way out when Perch came in but it seems not, Taylor claims his best position is RB which would give us 3 yet only 1 LB!

If the Ben Arfa loan deal does happen then I do hope Ashley takes a risk and blows some money on a striker, im sure there are some out there that will still have a good resale value if we go down, Robbie Keane being one. I expect none of this of course!

Some serious negativity on here. To be fair it was the same 12 months ago when the same wankers were predicting us to go straight down to division 3. I'm not saying we'll have a particularly good season but FFS we could still do OK (OK meaning being in this divison next year).

There is a section of our fans who are so predictable and so fucking negative. As for who the fans will get on the back of, well they've already decided it will be Perch.

my prediction is that in 8 years time we will be saying thank god we had ashley. cause we wont have gone bust and will be a lot stronger than a lot of clubs that are turning into bubble clubs - ie they gonna burts

Spot on mate, on all counts.

Top 6 finish for us apparantly:

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/football/view/1...-and-Fabregas-/

I'll have some of what Messi's been smoking.

He's definitly been smoking some of crazy Diego's stuff

I dunno, 3 or 4 games of getting used to the PL again and you never know. Thats what Jonas is like, very unpredictable.

Don't get me wrong I like Jonas even if he can be very frustrating at time but he is anything but a fantastic crosser of the ball. I wish he would learn to play the ball earlier and get crosses in, he seems to try and beat a man 3 times letting the opposition defence get back which usually ends up with losing posession, but he is certainly great at getting forward into positions quickly.

Speaking of Jonas, I seen Man Utd's first goal again yesterday from Monday and have to say some of the criticism of Jonas for it was harsh, I think it was Nani that done brilliantly and come in quickly and mugged him which was more good play from Man U than bad play from Jonas.

my prediction.......




1 year time, top ten finish

2 years time, the return of 'The Entertainers' as a rightful title

3 years time, CH to be knighted and most of the football fraternity to class the Toon as their second team again.


YEAH!